So folks really think Bernie vs Trump is better than Biden vs Trump?

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Nah ... your expectations are distorted and you are leaving out context.


Most countries do not have the perverse culture of corporate greed that exists in America.

All countries with Universal Healthcare have heavy regulation that is readily enforced by the federal government and if Private Insurance does exist - it plays a very minor role.

Neither of those features are present in what Joe Biden is proposing.

Well said.

In regards to the bolded...only in America are corporations considered people. Which is disgusting. Execute one of them then.

Not only do most countries lack the perverse culture of corporate greed here, but that idea of individualism which deprives societies of neccessary goods and trusts that can benefit it in crises like the coronavirus pandemic.

It's funny how we're just watching American Exceptionalism fail exceptionally to the point we've been locked out and shunned by the rest of the world in the past 3 and a half years since Trump's election...but people will still defend this as it cause our nation to go from a failed state to an authoritarian one.
 

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cute idea. Except it is completely bullshyt. There is no enthusiasm for Biden.

Literally the main stream talking point is the black community SAVED the Biden Campaign. He OWES the black community. They RESURRECTED his presidential run.

No one uses that language unless someone WASN'T THE FAVORITE but a community caped for them anyways to turn the tide.

70% are scared as fukk of trump and think biden is a SAFE bet. They don't fukk with him though, you out your damn mind if you think people trust biden/harris
Man...you saying what I'm thinking. I don't give a fukk about Biden or Kopmala. I legit do not like them. I know about their terrible track records with Biden supporting segregation in the south in the 70s and Kamala locking up black and spanish people when she was a DA in Oakland for next to nothing.

But Trump is taking this country to full fledged fascist/authoritarian places we've never been before and it's just getting more and more terrifying. This guy is giving a thumbs up to domestic terrorists, supporting police to beat and kill black people, removing racial sensitivity training from federal guidelines, he's encouraging a full fledged genocide.

Hell we already got 181,000 + needless deaths from his negligence w/ the coronavirus, and people still think this shyt is a joke.

We might not even have a democracy anymore or any elections if Trump gets another 4 years.
 

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Polling throughout the primary showed an OVERWHELMING majority of democrats want medicare for all, defunding the police, clearing student loans.

Biden literally ran against all of these and won in exit polls. PEOPLE DID NOT VOTE FOR POLICIES. THEY VOTED TO BEAT TRUMP. The polling showed it in every exit poll. Medicare for all 80%. Medicare for all candidate? Lose. Why? Trump must lose.
You get it.

WE don't want this shyt, but Trump is such a great threat to national and international security that he got to be removed. Even the Lincoln Project, and those are never trump Republicans are trying to get Biden elected to restore some normalcy to this country. this ain't it.
 
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They both would’ve beat Trump for different reasons with different paths to victory.

Biden will beat Trump with white suburbanites/boomers.

Bernie would’ve washed Trump with latinos and youth.

After corona, Trump was done.





Bernie couldn't even get the youth and Latinos to vote during the primaries
 

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Bernie would lose 35-40 states.

Some of y'all don't realize this country isn't that far left wing.
Yea...America is more center left if anything.
I just think it's damn sad that after watching all of our social safety nets crumble...people would vote to keep this crumbling infrastructure in place.

Biden is just the status quo like Obama. But still, he's 10 times better than Trump.
 

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Nah ... your expectations are distorted and you are leaving out context.


Most countries do not have the perverse culture of corporate greed that exists in America.

All countries with Universal Healthcare have heavy regulation that is readily enforced by the federal government and if Private Insurance does exist - it plays a very minor role.

Neither of those features are present in what Joe Biden is proposing.
America is too diverse for all this pipe dream shyt.

Bernie's from lily white Vermont where he can say all this pipe dream shyt because no one cares about him actually getting anything accomplished.

Senators from bigger and more diverse states with larger economies actually have more demanding constituencies who often aren't willing to unite with minorities to accomplish anything of these goals.
 

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America is too diverse for all this pipe dream shyt.
How is Universal healthcare a pipe dream when this country spends trillions on the military?
:dahell:

And wouldn't you think because America is that diverse (including incomes) that universal healthcare would serve the people better...especially those who are on fixed/tight budgets and incomes?
 

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Well what you want is an option. So your options are Biden doing something, or Trump getting the US further and further away from your goal.

Want I want is a common sense 21st Century platform much like what is present in every other modern nation in the world; that centers the American people instead of multinational corporations.

Like decent education, the right to have healthcare, decent wages, and saving the environment against irreversible destruction.

One candidate actually fought for that.

We HAD the option.

But people like you took that away from us ...

WHY?

You don’t even goddamn know why...

Listen to yourself - your only reason for voting for Biden is “he’s not Trump”.

fukking pathetic.
 
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The democrats were scared of Bernie because they thought the republicans would go crazy with the socialism bullshyt

instead Biden and a cop are on the ticket and the republicans still calling them Marxists socialists communists and all kinds of wild shyt :mjlol:
Also the biggest reason I feel the DNC and big "liberal" media outlets are so anti Bernie is because he would be slowing down their money flow from donors
 

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Well what you want is an option. So your options are Biden doing something, or Trump getting the US further and further away from your goal.
Sad that it's come to this...

Trump is taking America to blatant fascism/authoritarianism but we still got people here thinking "bbbbut.....".

That ship has unfortunately sailed.
 

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The democrats were scared of Bernie because they thought the republicans would go crazy with the socialism bullshyt

instead Biden and a cop are on the ticket and the republicans still calling them Marxists socialists communists and all kinds of wild shyt :mjlol:
It's fukking pathetic.

It also shows how many of these corporate Dems are in bed with wall street, the 1%, big pharma, and billion dollar corporations.

That's why America never changes...even the so called "good guys" on the left are too driven by money from nefarious purposes.

Y'all know Cory Booker invested in a tear gas company that was used to tear gas immigrant families at the border by ICE last year right?
 
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