So folks really think Bernie vs Trump is better than Biden vs Trump?

[Conan]

Wasn't Bernie polling better against Trump than Biden?

But meh. Milquetoast it is.

 

[sfgiants]

The democrats were scared of Bernie because they thought the republicans would go crazy with the socialism bullshyt

instead Biden and a cop are on the ticket and the republicans still calling them Marxists socialists communists and all kinds of wild shyt

 

[Conan]

The democrats were scared of Bernie because they thought the republicans would go crazy with the socialism bullshyt

instead Biden and a cop are on the ticket and the republicans still calling them Marxists socialists communists and all kinds of wild shyt

Yup

 

[OfTheCross]

I thought so...In hindsight, I'm glad Bernie lost. Trump can't land a punch on Biden so far.

Ditto

 

[ThatDude7]

If MSNBC and CNN stopped vilifying him and started actually covering his policies, once their average listener learned that he would do more to improve their lives than Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden, turnout would b higher.



Liberal media bias against the man was so fukking ridiculous. All the shyt going on in the world and they spent so much time crying about his followers being mean on Twitter. I’ll never get over how these shytty networks treated a man who legitimately just wanted to help the people more. That’s all he wanted to do

THIS

The average voter was so uninformed they literally thought Biden wanted Universal Healthcare ...

They have no idea what they are voting for. But Obama and the media said “vote Biden”

so they did

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

You didnt even present an argument for why you believe this.

Theres audio where Trump said he was scared of Clinton picking Bernie as the VP in 2016.

Bernie also polled better against Trump than Biden did.

So what are you talking about?

Trump was scared of VP Bernie because he'd serve as a good counterbalance to Clinton. She's a centrist and he's a liberal....so she has the establishment while he'd bring more liberal people that didn't like Clinton out to the polls.

Individually I don't think he was scared of either.

Biden is tough for him because he can't scare people with Joe. All the "evil left wing" shyt just doesn't stick because no one thinks of Joe as far-left.

Plus he grew up scrappy and can relate to regular white people beyond racial dog whistles. Biden can be like "is your life better now than it was 4 years ago? What will that silver spoon brat do for you?"

He's gotta refocus wypipo on $$$.

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

Why would a traditional non voter vote in a primary where you have to be a registered democrat in advance? You dont know how primaries work. I bet you didnt know that a small fraction of the electorate votes in primaries. Learn how shyt works stupid

Yeah, see all the Bernie supporters complained about this in 2016 and several states changed to allow open primaries. And it’s free to register to vote, and it’s free to change parties, and most states allow you to register to a party pretty late in the game.

So these mythical non-voters couldn’t bother to spend 5 minutes registering to vote in a primary to select their favored candidate?

And if you’re going to go down that small portion of the electorate path. What was your opinion of the primary system when Bernie was the front runner based on winning Iowa and New Hampshire?

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Spoiler

His supporters don’t ever vote, but they have all this energy when he doesn’t win talking bout they not voting . It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. Even Trump supporters actually make it to the booth.

This.

People like Bernie's ideas but not him. Young people don't vote but complain about representation.

I voted in the primary, live in an area with lots of young people. Probably saw 2 or 3 people over 50 for every person that looked under 30.

Plus Bernie is not a Democrat. He generally votes WITH the Democrats but he's Independent. If I'm the leader of the DNC, I wouldn't want Bernie winning either. Why should he get the benefit of using the DNC platform but then takes potshots at the DNC?

He has great ideas but he should have run as an Independent....of course the problem is that he'd get accused of siphoning votes from the Dems....so there's that.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Why would a traditional non voter vote in a primary where you have to be a registered democrat in advance? You dont know how primaries work. I bet you didnt know that a small fraction of the electorate votes in primaries. Learn how shyt works stupid

Eh....depends on the state.

Some states have open primaries. I'm not a registered Democrat or Republican but voted in the Democratic Primary here in Texas.

Some Republicans down here will vote in the Dem Primary if the sitting President is Republican....that way they can influence (they hope) the outcome and choose the President's opponent. Not many but some do.

 

[ThatDude7]

Trump was scared of VP Bernie because he'd serve as a good counterbalance to Clinton. She's a centrist and he's a liberal....so she has the establishment while he'd bring more liberal people that didn't like Clinton out to the polls.

Individually I don't think he was scared of either.

Biden is tough for him because he can't scare people with Joe. All the "evil left wing" shyt just doesn't stick because no one thinks of Joe as far-left.

Plus he grew up scrappy and can relate to regular white people beyond racial dog whistles. Biden can be like "is your life better now than it was 4 years ago? What will that silver spoon brat do for you?"

He's gotta refocus wypipo on $$$.

You think the “evil left wing” socialist narrative won’t stick?

You think Trump Supporters use logic and are well informed?

But we’re the ones that don’t know what we’re talking about ...

Riiiiiiiiiight

 

[Numpsay]

Bernie Bros will never let this go. Ya mans lost in the primaries back to back yet they still try and make people believe he has all of this support. You brehs refuse to see the support isn't nearly as large as you want to believe, y'all just make a lot of noise. But in the end y'all are just so delusional as your mans Bernie.

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

THIS

The average voter was so uninformed they literally thought Biden wanted Universal Healthcare ...

They have no idea what they are voting for. But Obama and the media said “vote Biden”

so they did

You do know Universal Healthcare encompasses things beyond Bernie’s proposed Medicare 4 all right? Canada, the UK, and all those Scandinavian countries don’t have health plans that look anything like M4A and they have universal healthcare. No country in the world has what Bernie was proposing. But several have universal healthcare.

 

[NaijaProdigy Redux]

Bernie never had a shot of being in the White House. I don't know why that is so hard to accept

 

[Spliff]

"nikka tamer"-thoughts back to necromancing threads so he doesn't get tagged with spamming.

6 months before a first reply.

 

[ThatDude7]

You do know Universal Healthcare encompasses things beyond Bernie’s proposed Medicare 4 all right? Canada, the UK, and all those Scandinavian countries don’t have health plans that look anything like M4A and they have universal healthcare. No country in the world has what Bernie was proposing. But several have universal healthcare.

I do realize that.

I also realize that Biden’s plan is no where close to representing universal healthcare and it has loop holes that will be obliterated by the healthcare industry.

And I also know that Joe Biden has vigorously done the bidding of wealthy campaign contributors for over 4 Decades

And I know that he has collected over $27 Million dollars from the healthcare industry in this election cycle alone.

So no - I am the opposite of optimistic regarding Joe Biden’s healthcare platform.

Call me crazy