So china is making cars that are affordable and our government doesnt care?

[papa pimp]

you should have said that back in the 70s-80s when they did that very thing. shipped all of the jobs over there, leaving many jobless. don't stop now that the chinese are cutting off the middle man that's been marking up prices. keep that same energy

Who is you? No policy maker is on here and I damn sure was not alive in the 70s or 80s. Do you think you've got some sort of "gotcha" by mentioning the Chinese shock I literally just alluded to? Doubling down on idiocy makes no sense.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

you should have said that back in the 70s-80s when they did that very thing. shipped all of the jobs over there, leaving many jobless. don't stop now that the chinese are cutting off the middle man that's been marking up prices. keep that same energy

And now China is going through the same thing 40 years later by moving manufacturing to Mexico due to higher labor costs, supply chain issues, and taxes.​

 

[ChatGPT-5]

And now China is going through the same thing 40 years later by moving manufacturing to Mexico due to higher labor costs, supply chain issues, and taxes.​

high labour cost? more like trying to sneak in the U.S and South America. forget the shipping, its right there.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Who is you? No policy maker is on here and I damn sure was not alive in the 70s or 80s. Do you think you've got some sort of "gotcha" by mentioning the Chinese shock I literally just alluded to? Doubling down on idiocy makes no sense.

I am chatgpt-4, you can literally see my screen name to the far left, goofy.

You talk about cheap labor job loss and china. I counter it with cheap labor job loss and china. wtf is going on. however, neither addressed the U.S issue of never lowering the cost, bringing back jobs, nothing. Completely avoided that bit. China has the edge because of U.S corporate greed. Let's start there.

 

[papa pimp]

I am chatgpt-4, you can literally see my screen name to the far left, goofy.

You talk about cheap labor job loss and china. I counter it with cheap labor job loss and china. wtf is going on. however, neither addressed the U.S issue of never lowering the cost, bringing back jobs, nothing. Completely avoided that bit. China has the edge because of U.S corporate greed. Let's start there.

You are literally rambling nonsense at this point




Wages have not kept up with inflation DUH! Read back dipshyt and you'll see I said its a huge problem but a Chinese shock won't solve it.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

You are literally rambling nonsense at this point




Wages have not kept up with inflation DUH! Read back dipshyt and you'll see I said its a huge problem but a Chinese shock won't solve it.

Then what you need to be doing is be worried about that. There would be no chinese option if there were no wage gap you fool. Why do you think its alluring right now? why? because we just magically like tap dancing for the chinese. WTF ARE YOU ON. Fix the domestic market, and there is no chinese option.

 

[Sir ZDuke]

China makes cars using damn near slave labor and the government subsidizes their EVs. There is zero way for the US or Europe to compete with that. Tariffs in this market will unfortunately have to exist.

Who do tariffs benefit, the American consumer or the auto industry?

 

[papa pimp]

Then what you need to be doing is be worried about that. There would be no chinese option if there were no wage gap you fool. Why do you think its alluring right now? why? because we just magically like tap dancing for the chinese. WTF ARE YOU ON. Fix the domestic market, and there is no chinese option.

you keep saying the same thing idiot thinking you're dropping knowledge when you just show you're illiterate

 

[Sir ZDuke]

I didn’t know thecoli had so many F50 CEOs. You have motherfukkers without two quarters to rub together talking about, “Tariffs must be implemented”, “slave labor blah blah blah.”

I’m sorry, I thought this was America, the home of capitalism and innovation. Everyone else is expected to compete and pull themselves up by their bootstraps, why can’t the auto industry do that and out-innovate the Chinese?

 

[ChatGPT-5]

you keep saying the same thing idiot thinking you're dropping knowledge when you just show you're illiterate

I didn’t know thecoli had so many F50 CEOs. You have motherfukkers without two quarters to rub together talking about, “Tariffs must be implemented”, “slave labor blah blah blah.”

I’m sorry, I thought this was America, the home of capitalism and innovation. Everyone else is expected to compete and pull themselves up by their bootstraps, why can’t the auto industry do that and out-innovate the Chinese?

bingo

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

high labour cost? more like trying to sneak in the U.S and South America. forget the shipping, its right there.

Actually, more like Chinese citizens demanding more pay.......

China suppresses workers’ attempts to demand wages

The CCP regime has, in recent years, been deepening its attacks on the democratic rights of workers and using all means to prevent them from demanding their unpaid wages—through legislation, vilification and arrests.

www.wsws.org

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Actually, more like Chinese citizens demanding more pay.......

China suppresses workers’ attempts to demand wages

The CCP regime has, in recent years, been deepening its attacks on the democratic rights of workers and using all means to prevent them from demanding their unpaid wages—through legislation, vilification and arrests.

www.wsws.org

sounds like a chinese problem. couldnt care less.

in fact, going to mexico may hurt them, but it benefits the rest.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

those cars are made off legos and belly button lint.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

The deep problem that isn't really being talked about is that China as a geopolitical power has never been seen before.

China is a socialistic protectionist economy domestically with a strong capitalistic sense internationally. They are large enough to be too big to fail and they treat other countries as customers and they are the Wal-Mart: Undercut the local competitors with pricing, spread and maintain as much as possible.

They preyed on Capitalism's desire to cut costs and increase margins as a way to worm into their economies. Then, as a socialistic country with a single leader without true elections, they have the capability to pivot in a way that democratic countries can't maintain because our leadership in America can switch every 4 years.

This!

America is beholden to big business. The problem with that, is that we're essentially held hostage by a room full of billionaires that donate to PAC's and dictate the direction of the country. Their goals are self-intrested and not aligned with the nation as a whole.

China puts itself above any celebrity, wealthy businessman etc.

 

[B86]

China makes cars using damn near slave labor and the government subsidizes their EVs. There is zero way for the US or Europe to compete with that. Tariffs in this market will unfortunately have to exist.

I just thought the parts the US use for cars are heavily overpriced, plus taxes, manufacturers greed, etc, is why an average vehicle is like $30k here. Maybe I'm wrong...