So china is making cars that are affordable and our government doesnt care?

[Insensitive]

I'm copping some BYD stock going forward.

I have no idea why brehs are in this thread under the impression that Chinese == cars that will kill you.

I'm pretty sure this same goofy sentiment was held when Japan and then Korea were on the come up.

Focus on the bag and the product, not it's origin.

 

[papa pimp]

The irony is many Chinese companies actually lobbied their government to allow foreign companies to keep selling in China because the competition with international companies will breed innovation and weed out the weaker companies. Now, instead of having their local companies wiped out by Apple and Tesla they have world class companies like Huawei and BYD.

what Apple can do in China is heavily restricted and BYD has to do with cheap labor + monopoly over commodities needed for batteries not "weeding out the weak and innovating"

 

[Chronic]

what Apple can do in China is heavily restricted and BYD has to do with cheap labor + monopoly over commodities needed for batteries not "weeding out the weak and innovating"

"Heavily restricted" yet Iphone was the best selling smartphone in China for years. BYD currently leading in patents application over US companies, don't be surprised when the rest of the world decided to adopt their charging infrastructures over Tesla's

 

[papa pimp]

"Heavily restricted" yet Iphone was the best selling smartphone in China for years. BYD currently leading in patents application over US companies, don't be surprised when the rest of the world decided to adopt their charging infrastructures over Tesla's

Uh huh

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I watch videos by American citizen that claim the 2020 election were rigged and Biden and his son are member of the deepstate I guess it's must be true as well.

Free Press doesn't exist in China so that comparison doesn't work....

Journalists in China face ‘nightmare’ worthy of Mao era, press freedom group says

Reporters Without Borders calls increasing media oppression in China a ‘great leap backwards’ and says Hong Kong journalism is ‘in freefall’

www.theguardian.com

China Gets Worst Ever Score in Global Press-Freedom Survey

The report's authors blame “ideological tightening” under President Xi Jinping

time.com

World Press Freedom Index Ranks China Near Last, Cites ‘Grave Threat’ to Hong Kong Journalism

The 2021 World Press Freedom Index ranks China 177th out of 180 countries and warns that Hong Kong journalism is under 'grave threat.'

variety.com

You only believe what the Chinese Government allows you to read/see.​

 

[Geek Nasty]

They bout to lose another twenty years to hyper inflation when the rest of the globe stops buying US treasuries since they won't be forced to use the dollar for trade and instead use their own commodities or currencies. It's a shyt storm coming in the next 5 years many people aren't paying attention to. People's savings are about to dissappear, social services cut. The people who really run this country aren't as smart as people make them seem. If they allowed the 2008 crash to run its natural course without bank bailouts we would be now getting ready to come out of those 2 decades of hyperinflation we are going to lose anyway.

The dollar isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Other countries have worse debt crises than the US.

 

[Chronic]

Free Press doesn't exist in China so that comparison doesn't work....

Journalists in China face ‘nightmare’ worthy of Mao era, press freedom group says

Reporters Without Borders calls increasing media oppression in China a ‘great leap backwards’ and says Hong Kong journalism is ‘in freefall’

www.theguardian.com

China Gets Worst Ever Score in Global Press-Freedom Survey

The report's authors blame “ideological tightening” under President Xi Jinping

time.com

World Press Freedom Index Ranks China Near Last, Cites ‘Grave Threat’ to Hong Kong Journalism

The 2021 World Press Freedom Index ranks China 177th out of 180 countries and warns that Hong Kong journalism is under 'grave threat.'

variety.com

You only believe what the Chinese Government allows you to read/see.​

Except that youtube channel isn't from legitimate journalist either. Also BYD have been sold across the world if the fire problem is as bad as that channel claim surely news channels and journalists from other countries would've reported it by now also when they start selling in EU market they got tested according European safety standard and found to be safer than equivalent European EV. Are you going to claim China also bribed every single one of them too?

 

[JT-Money]

Yeah, I'm good on any stuff from China.

China is freaking out over an 'open secret' that its cooking oil was ferried for years in chemical tanks that weren't cleaned​

China is freaking out over an 'open secret' that its cooking oil was ferried for years in chemical tanks that weren't cleaned

China is up in arms after state media discovered trucks interchangeably delivered soy oil and chemicals for fuel without cleaning their tanks.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Except that youtube channel isn't from legitimate journalist either.

Doesn't have to be since the claims are verifiable and China censors ALL media.​

Also BYD have been sold across the world if the fire problem is as bad as that channel claim surely news channels and journalists from other countries would've reported it by now also when they start selling in EU market they got tested according European safety standard and found to be safer than equivalent European EV.

You mean like this .....​

BYD electric car catches fire at Hong Kong charging station

Photos of the scene show the BYD car’s bonnet and tyre were damaged, with the charging cable left connected to vehicle.

www.scmp.com

First BYD Atto 3 Catches Fire in Thailand: An Isolated Incident or a Wake-Up Call? - Blink Drive

On a recent afternoon at 14:10, local rescue teams and firefighters in Thailand responded to a fire incident involving a BYD Atto 3 electric vehicle. The incident occurred near a Big C supermarket in the outskirts of Sakon Nakhon. Firefighters from Sawang Metta Tham, along with local municipal...

blink-drive.com

While BYD Expands Abroad, Another Han EV Catches Fire – What's Wrong With It?

The fire started in Sichuan on August 16 in a car that had been licensed for only three days. The blaze was quickly extinguished

www.autoevolution.com

.....and it isn't just the fire issue, but multiple safety issues China suppresses/censors up to/including deaths caused by their equipment malfunctioning.​

Are you going to claim China also bribed every single one of them too?

Nope. Not necessary.​

 

[AStrangeName]

People actually WANT less options and choices in the marketplace? Am I reading some of these post in this thread wrong?

This country didn't spend 40+ years of propaganda for nothing. You gotta know at one point, americans at large shytted on japanese and korean cars, before accepting them.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

BTW, I own several Chinese devices and don't mind it making more affordable vehicles.

They just need to work on quality control.​

 

[Kornball The Conqueror]

let the free market decide

 

[ChatGPT-5]

All cheap things are not equal.

I believe we should invest in public infrastructure so that we can become a mostly carless society. Its unlikely but that is the real issue.

Pragmatically, if the choice is cheap goods and stimulating an ailing Chinese economy then no I don't believe that is the route that should be taken. You all would be the first to cry at the job losses.

You keep focusing on the US but when I travel to African countries and see Chinese produced dashikis and facsimiles of African tribal art because they flooded those markets in a way the locals cant compete sheerly due to population/cheap labor then the shock is a global issue.

lower cost. lower inflation. but they wont do that. and while they are at it...rent. until then, china is the alternative. shyt is getting very hard for the middle man in america, and it seems to be getting worse, because they want to block us in with the expensive shyt, and not raise wages (and if they do, they just raise the prices) folks are struggling. they need to get hit in the pockets to learn to fix things.

 

[papa pimp]

lower cost. lower inflation. but they wont do that. and while they are at it...rent. until then, china is the alternative. shyt is getting very hard for the middle man in america, and it seems to be getting worse, because they want to block us in with the expensive shyt, and not raise wages (and if they do, they just raise the prices) folks are struggling. they need to get hit in the pockets to learn to fix things.

I didn't say things are perfect but just allowing a chinese shock is not some ideal solution. This idea that you're going to get tons of cheap goods and everyone keep their jobs is a fairytale.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

I didn't say things are perfect but just allowing a chinese shock is not some ideal solution. This idea that you're going to get tons of cheap goods and everyone keep their jobs is a fairytale.

you should have said that back in the 70s-80s when they did that very thing. shipped all of the jobs over there, leaving many jobless. don't stop now that the chinese are cutting off the middle man that's been marking up prices. keep that same energy