So basically Kamalas campaign lied to the country

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2 years ago the public was saying Biden looked like he declined. Democrats said it was just a Republican talking point.
When their own voters said nah, he looks a bit weary and should not run for a 2nd term they were told to shut up. The Democratic shills on this damn website were parroting that. Said you were a nazi, cac, or Trump stan spreading misinformation.

Fast forward to Summer 2024. Biden looks washed, and now we are hearing its not Kamala's fault, her campaign didn't have enough time.

You cannot reason with people who want to drink the kool-aid willingly.
Yeah, the country is stupid, but Dems also treat all of us like they're stupider than we are
 
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This is a false notion. Obama and Biden had way better turnouts that Kamala.

Democrats were lazy and did the bare minimum knowing good and well Biden was deteriorating.
Obama and Biden didn't have 3 months to spin up a campaign. For all the things working against her, I think she did the best with the hand she was dealt (outside of the Cheney bullshyt). Biden and his advisors/team shouldn't have pushed for another term knowing what shape he was in. Her campaign being ran by Biden's team doomed her too, especially given they didn't really even like her. Every last one of them needs to go. They shouldn't be allowed on any campaign team going forward. They need to take all the Obama people with them. And whatever Clinton remnants remain. It's time to start fresh.
 

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Obama and Biden didn't have 3 months to spin up a campaign. For all the things working against her, I think she did the best with the hand she was dealt (outside of the Cheney bullshyt). Biden and his advisors/team shouldn't have pushed for another term know what shape he was in. Her campaign being ran by Biden's team doomed her too, especially given they didn't really even like her. Every last one of them needs to go. They shouldn't be allowed on any campaign team going forward. They need to take all the Obama people with them. And whatever Clinton remnants remain. It's time to start fresh.
Come on bruh, she did not do her best
 

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Yeah, the country is stupid, but Dems also treat all of us like they're stupider than we are

This isn't a welcomed take on this website. You can point out how the Democratic party has shifted hard-left and is no longer the same party from 20 years ago, even 10. But people will fight you tooth and nail because tribalism requires them to defend The Party even if it is clearly not the same. Look how many people are clamoring for us to fight Russia when 20 years ago you would have been damn near banned from the party for being pro-war.
 

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You legit had posters on here getting upset at me because I said we can vote for Harris, while also acknowledging that the shyt out there about her over the years was true :mjlol:

Was calling me MAGA and c00n when I literally made it clear that I was still voting for her even if I wasn't happy about it.
I had dudes getting mad at me when I all I said was that her (now we know fake) poll numbers were too low, 4 - 6 weeks out from the election. And this was after I also said I was going to vote for her, which I did.
 

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This isn't a welcomed take on this website. You can point out how the Democratic party has shifted hard-left and is no longer the same party from 20 years ago, even 10. But people will fight you tooth and nail because tribalism requires them to defend The Party even if it is clearly not the same. Look how many people are clamoring for us to fight Russia when 20 years ago you would have been damn near banned from the party for being pro-war.
I have tended to be a centrist, akin to Clinton. I do NOT like where the dems went and I hate how EVERY facet of politics have been polarized. Diversity used to be our strength but look at the Dems now
 

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This isn't a welcomed take on this website. You can point out how the Democratic party has shifted hard-left and is no longer the same party from 20 years ago, even 10. But people will fight you tooth and nail because tribalism requires them to defend The Party even if it is clearly not the same. Look how many people are clamoring for us to fight Russia when 20 years ago you would have been damn near banned from the party for being pro-war.
Dems are not hard left
They shifted right

Ppl just say hard left because of trans scare

I agree with you on the war shyt, but that's right shifting
 

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Dems are not hard left
They shifted right

Ppl just say hard left because of trans scare

I agree with you on the war shyt, but that's right shifting

By hard left I mean the Democrats moving towards more Collectivist policies. They started embracing group identity over individual liberty at an increasing pace.
 
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