So all Hitler had to do was not backstab stalin...and london west Europe is his

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Skip the battle of Britain. Spend the time setting up defensive positions along the French, Scandinavian , and Italian Coasts. Britain is now all alone in the war and they have to spend the resources trying to perform a "D Day" type operation solo. New defensive positions could be defended with less manpower , artillery, aircraft, navalcraft, etc that could be used for the Eastern Front. The entire continent of Europe would be speaking German till this day:whew::whew:
 

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Declaring war on an otherwise uninterested US didn't help either.
They didn't, Japan attacked the US and the US jingoists didn't like that - so they "joined the war" for a bit.

Nazi Germany was being propped up by US corporations - never forget the largest Nazi groups outside of Germany were in the US - w even had national Nazi ceremonies prior to our entrance into the war.
 

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And rep for the link where Hitler gives America credit for what he was doing.



And I said it before and I'll say it again... yall brehs clown a lot but yall be on it when it comes to historical knowledge

Yall laced me with lots of history game in this thread :wow:
I always found the Nazi Germany era fascinating. Especially trying understand how the fukk did the people of Germany allow Hitler to get away with the shyt that he got away with. I couldn't wrap my mind around it. The conclusion that I came to was very simple - they allowed him to get away with all of it because it fed into the German people's ego and hubris. To me the only difference between Nazi German actions and philosophy and historic America is timing.

People think some how that this can't happen in contemporary America but with the rise of demagogues like Trump and whomever comes after him the possibility is there. I do think that the saving grace for America is the fact that it's not completely homogeneous and that the people can arm themselves. The moment we give up our guns we're food.
 

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I always found the Nazi Germany era fascinating. Especially trying understand how the fukk did the people of Germany allow Hitler to get away with the shyt that he got away with. I couldn't wrap my mind around it. The conclusion that I came to was very simple - they allowed him to get away with all of it because it fed into the German people's ego and hubris. To me the only difference between Nazi German actions and philosophy and historic America is timing.

People think some how that this can't happen in contemporary America but with the rise of demagogues like Trump and whomever comes after him the possibility is there. I do think that the saving grace for America is the fact that it's not completely homogeneous and that the people can arm themselves. The moment we give up our guns we're food.

LOL. ARs can't do shyt to F35s. Only thing stopping America from becoming Nazi Germany is that our Hitler hasn't risen yet
 

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Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler – the history of banks who funded Nazis

Professor Antony SuttonIn and his historical book about raising Nazis and Hitler – Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler


Wall Street funded Nazis




Professor Antony SuttonIn his book, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, Professor Antony Sutton, author of nineteen books, provides a thoroughly documented account of the role played by Morgan, Rockefeller, General Electric Company, Standard Oil, National City Bank, Chase and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company, General Motors, Ford, and other industrialists, in helping to finance the Nazis. To prove his point, Professor Sutton provides bank statements, letters from U.S. ambassadors, mainstream media sources, Congressional Records, excerpts from Congressional Investigations, and statements from the Nuremberg trials. Wall Street’s funding of the Nazis is part of authentic history.




Source of article: http://www.thehiddenevil.com/nazis.asp

Yeah I read that before. Its amazing the amount of US companies and their subsidiaries who assisted to rebuild Hitlers military before the start of the war. Everyone knows about IBM, but very few know about GM and Ford were building trucks and tanks for nazis germany. Or the fact that dupont, bayer and standard oil, plus tons other american companies assisted germany in rearmamant after WW1 and during WW2.

Folks still say that the IG Farben building wasn't bombed cause the US government would have had to cough up money to Dupont and Bayer after the war. Which they did supposedly have to cough up to Ford.
 

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Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler – the history of banks who funded Nazis

Professor Antony SuttonIn and his historical book about raising Nazis and Hitler – Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler


Wall Street funded Nazis




Professor Antony SuttonIn his book, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, Professor Antony Sutton, author of nineteen books, provides a thoroughly documented account of the role played by Morgan, Rockefeller, General Electric Company, Standard Oil, National City Bank, Chase and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company, General Motors, Ford, and other industrialists, in helping to finance the Nazis. To prove his point, Professor Sutton provides bank statements, letters from U.S. ambassadors, mainstream media sources, Congressional Records, excerpts from Congressional Investigations, and statements from the Nuremberg trials. Wall Street’s funding of the Nazis is part of authentic history.




Source of article: http://www.thehiddenevil.com/nazis.asp

Makes sense, the money didn't come out of the ether.:ehh:
 

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LOL. ARs can't do shyt to F35s. Only thing stopping America from becoming Nazi Germany is that our Hitler hasn't risen yet
If shyt popped off it would mostly be guerrilla warfare and close quarter combat. You can't hold and control shyt from the sky. The quickest way for a petty American dictator to get himself up out of here is to destroy his own country's infrastructure.
 
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Makes sense, the money didn't come out of the ether.:ehh:


Yeah I read that before. Its amazing the amount of US companies and their subsidiaries who assisted to rebuild Hitlers military before the start of the war. Everyone knows about IBM, but very few know about GM and Ford were building trucks and tanks for nazis germany. Or the fact that dupont, bayer and standard oil, plus tons other american companies assisted germany in rearmamant after WW1 and during WW2.

Folks still say that the IG Farben building wasn't bombed cause the US government would have had to cough up money to Dupont and Bayer after the war. Which they did supposedly have to cough up to Ford.

Dont forget they was getting hefty loans to keep the bankrupt nazi party alive. The machine Hitler kept going wasnt fully in his hands. He didnt have full sovereign control. Prescott Bush was another high rank American who support the Nazi financially(loans). From the tech of petrochemicals, computing to the Germany eugenics background ...all came from higher power individuals

Both hitler and Mussolini were get financial support by the high elite Americans
 

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not sure if its been posted but

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lol at france being a chicken facing the opposite direction.
france gets a bad wrap, they are actually rather gangster with it...when they are not surrendering.

Good plan on paper until hitler turned the tables and got revenge for what happened in WW2.

And if folks don't think this is possible we actually saw this with China vs Russia in the 70s and Afghanistan vs Iran in the 80s.

i'm familiar with how the mujahideen flipped after the soviets left but i don't know about china vs russia in the 70's.
can i get a break down?


Skip the battle of Britain. Spend the time setting up defensive positions along the French, Scandinavian , and Italian Coasts. Britain is now all alone in the war and they have to spend the resources trying to perform a "D Day" type operation solo.

Skipping the battle of Britain is impossible given that air power is universally recognized as a vital component of war.
In order to engage Britain there was no choice but to take to the skies above the Channel and London. They certainly were not going to take them by sea.
And don't forget that Hitler was enamored with the Luftwaffe. Can you really imagine him sitting on his hands and not using them the way he did?

20/20 and whatnot.
 

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lol at france being a chicken facing the opposite direction.
france gets a bad wrap, they are actually rather gangster with it...when they are not surrendering.



i'm familiar with how the mujahideen flipped after the soviets left but i don't know about china vs russia in the 70's.
can i get a break down?




Skipping the battle of Britain is impossible given that air power is universally recognized as a vital component of war.
In order to engage Britain there was no choice but to take to the skies above the Channel and London. They certainly were not going to take them by sea.
And don't forget that Hitler was enamored with the Luftwaffe. Can you really imagine him sitting on his hands and not using them the way he did?

20/20 and whatnot.
Ain't no such thing as halfway crooks :yeshrug:

The people are gangsta against their government when need be...probably the most gangsta population versus its government.

But the country as a whole is puccy and rightly get shat on for WWII
 

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Had Germany not entered Africa too early, and told Japan to fkn chill for a bit then the US doesn’t enter the war until Germany has all of west Europe on lock. Japan takes over the rest of Asia and Russia then has to fight a 3 front war they can’t win. Germany takes over the entire continent and whatever is left that’s valuable in Africa to then head west to America, I would say there’s a stalemate in that war since America is too tough to defeat if the US is on defense the whole time but that leaves America completely alone as Germany had already taken South America and sits at the Mexican border to wait out an internal collapse as America has no trade partners to buy or sell with.
Canada and Switzerland chill in the cut not dealing with any of this non sense :hubie:
 

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i'm familiar with how the mujahideen flipped after the soviets left but i don't know about china vs russia in the 70's.
can i get a break down?

Basically due to the cold war and Russia being more agressive with proxy wars. The west decided that one way to slow down russia was to help china become more of an economical power.

So america and europe began doing business with china on a whole different level. Which dealt with them exchanging technology with them in order to off shore work to china. Which in the end how China became the economical power that they are today.

The west thinking was if China became strong it could slow down russian expansion all over asia and europe.

Realize also that Russia and china were on icy terms ever since the death of stalin.

So basically the reason why china is so powerful today is because of two events. One their initial tightness with with Russians (especially during the Stalin days) with Russia initailly helping them to lay the ground work for developing their first atomic bomb. (Before they eventual had policy issues which started a dicey relationship with Russia) and two the west in the 70s opening up trade to them and recognizing them as the true china (while still giving military support to Taiwan).
 
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Had Germany not entered Africa too early, and told Japan to fkn chill for a bit then the US doesn’t enter the war until Germany has all of west Europe on lock. Japan takes over the rest of Asia and Russia then has to fight a 3 front war they can’t win. Germany takes over the entire continent and whatever is left that’s valuable in Africa to then head west to America, I would say there’s a stalemate in that war since America is too tough to defeat if the US is on defense the whole time but that leaves America completely alone as Germany had already taken South America and sits at the Mexican border to wait out an internal collapse as America has no trade partners to buy or sell with.
Canada and Switzerland chill in the cut not dealing with any of this non sense :hubie:

I think you meant a 2 front war?

Anyway, to your points;

Holding off on N. Africa means starving Germany of precious fuel to literally keep the war going. Thy were in N. Africa for a reason.

Japan arguably should have held off on attacking America until...fukking never!
Admiral Yamamoto said it best "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve."
The Japanese knew that our manufacturing capacity was something they could not overcome but even then,
they grossly underestimated America's ability to pump out Aircraft carriers non stop.

Now, let's say that Germany runs the table in Europe.
Now they are an occupying force over the Entire continent *cough* without N. African fuel *cough*
shyt on the French if you want but there was a resistance force there.
Warsaw, Poland...those fukkers fought to the death in their homes.
They took tank rounds to their homes.
This would happen all over Europe.
Stalingrad much, breh? Seriously, look into what it took to lay siege to that city and they never even took it.

Lol...holy shyt, I just got to the part about Germany taking over S. America!!!
I thought I was high.
wtf you smoking negro?
 
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