So all Hitler had to do was not backstab stalin...and london west Europe is his

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@∆y = f(∆x) i should go in on yo ho ass for calling me a weirdo for no damn reason but you provided me with good info i didnt know.ima let u live this time.i guess i should have punctuated better


fukk:ucku:you for calling me a weirdo.i feel better now:ld::yes:
 

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really?
us army was weak as hell before ww2. US actually had a smaller army than portugal before WW2

yeah but our potential for production was ridiculous.
Yamamoto knew it was a mistake to attack america for this exact reason.
a quote that is often attributed to him: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
 

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Russians raped 2 million German women.
Damn

Thats just vulgar, even in wartime standards :huhldup:

this thread very enlightening tho.i appreciate this.:ohhh:
wassup wit wartime being ok to rape women back then.like it was the greenlight?:hamster:

i'm pretty sure that the germans did their fair share of raping as well.
for whatever reason the russians seem to be portrayed as particularly horrific.

Dan Carlin has been mentioned in this thread and there is one story he told that comes to mind.
as the russians were closing in on berlin towards the end of the war in europe, a russian officer
told a group of german women to go west as fast as they can.
he told them that the russians who you see now are professional soldiers.
the men coming behind us are animals, you need to go now.

gives me the fukking chills.
 

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Right. Also a lot of Hitler's and the Nazi's inspiration came from America's land grab westward and the slavery and massacre of the indigenous and African peoples. Hitler's whole shyt about "living space" for the Germans came directly from watching and studying the white Americans.
Hitler was delusional because he was saying that America can't say shyt about what he's doing because they (the Americans) did the same shyt successfully. His whole thing was that America has no moral high ground over him.

Which brings me to this question....what's the difference between Hitler and America' "founding fathers"? Hitler didn't see much of one.

eugenics is another gem that he got from america.
the science of racism.
 

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Japan was terrorizing China and the rest of SE Asia all through the 30s. And snatching up all the resources. It was most likely all good until Japans antics started interfering with US economic interests. I fully believe that pearl harbor was no surprise, and there was pressure to get at Japan for basically controlling most of the Asian pacific; the US just wasnt prepared for the ruthlessness.

US had already broken Japan's diplomatic code and were listening in on everything.
US most def knew it was going to happen and used it as the reason to get in on the war.
 

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They said that he was on dozens of medications toward the end of his life.

he was on a cocktail of drugs that included but was not limited to amphetamines, opiates and bovine testosterone.
i'm sure you could find his doctors notes that have all sorts of crazy shyt they were pumping into him.
hitler was high as a kite for most of WW2.

get faded and try to do everything everywhere all the time with guns and bombs, brehs.
 

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yeah but our potential for production was ridiculous.
Yamamoto knew it was a mistake to attack america for this exact reason.
a quote that is often attributed to him: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."


Yeah 1940 weak as hell by the end of 44 might have been the strongest nation
 

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Carlin is excellent when it comes to the visual and the description of the battle or the personas behind the wheel. However, his stuff looks too much like a blockbuster. He doesn't really explain the political/ideological sides of things.

Going to have disagreed breh, I read a fair share of the same sources carlin read for his khan series and he did really well putting it all together. Even the Chinese history side of that series was on point. People are always messing up that. Yeah, he leans to military history side a lot more so he has that bias. Even with his bias he does it well.


My only beef with Carlin is he focuses way too much on Europe. But :yeshrug:



And to be fair no one encompass turning points in history well because financial history which is essential is always glossed over!
 
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He had no chance. He knew that Stalin was reorganizing his military as well. Stalin was not waiting for him his hands crossed. Plus, he needed Ukraine for food and the Caucasus for oil. Also, putting the USSR to sleep was, in his mind, the guarantee that UK was going to negotiate and the war will end.

Nonetheless, he was already fighting on three fronts: western and northern Europe, the Balkans and southern Europe, and north Africa. Adding a fourth front was never going to go down well, even if you've got manpower in the billions like China or India a four-front war is too much to pull off. At least one of them should have been locked down beforehand.

Also I'm not sure if Stalin was an unmanageable threat like that on his own. Yes, they would inevitably have gone to war over Poland and eastern Europe, but if Stalin started it in 1948 the situation is totally different if you've got western Europe locked down. You don't have to worry about an Anglo - Soviet alliance for one thing, and with the UK out of the picture the Americans wouldn't have a base of operations in Europe. There wouldn't be a single friendly port or airfield to land US troops in the whole Atlantic seaboard of Europe. So strategically, the value of securing a front would have been greater than the resources that could be gained by an early eastern invasion.
 

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With the demonic ass experiments and games Japan was running on the Chinese back then rest of Asia had to be :whew: IMO it probably wouldn't have been good for them at all if Japan didn't get humbled by them bombs. :picard:
Yep, Japanese were wilding something crazy. They were litteral demons. You were better off kill all your family and dead yourself as a civilian rather than being caught by the japanese forces after a fight.
 
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