So 2019 will be 400 years since....

[Dirty_Jerz]

2019 is definantly going to be an interesting time, the way things are going right now its hard to imagine what crazy ideas and ways of living are going to be reinvented.

there was a fat white mexican who joked about this on stand up comedy a few years ago saying how blacks would need a new excuse soon, i wouldnt be suprised at all by 2019 if even more downlow cacs get very upfront about "black people living in the past". maybe even by then there will be a serious racial divide created by internet social media.

 

[Everythingg]

if scriptures were meant for west africans from hundreds of years ago, why would god give them to middle eastern semites thousands of years ago?

People migrate.

 

[Danie84]

So 400 years, it will take our history to finally replenish

 

[Everythingg]

pause breh...you already said you don't know anything about god except that he exists, are you now saying that know that he created good and evil? and that you also know that this must imply he transcends good and evil? are you now changing your previous answer? (which is fine btw) and is there anything else you want to add to the list of thing you know about the god you believe in?

Ok I thought you meant characteristics of this God. Like what He liked and disliked.

Nonetheless why am I giving you this? Like lets get to the point you want to make.

 

[Everythingg]

So 400 years, it will take our history to finally replenish

Maybe the start, maybe the end, maybe nothing. Time will tell. This was just something that I noticed myself concerning the bible.

 

[Everythingg]

i don't know y we had to go in on the OP.. We can just ignore all the religion talk for now--- for some of us, that shyt helps, for most it hurts.

I think that we've made progress considering all of the fukk shyt we've been through... We've just started working on the mental community trauma and we been chipping away at the self hate for some decades now.

We live in the land of our oppressors and amongst the same people who would be hanging us if this were 40 years ago... so we just need to know.... With health, money, group economy and education - this is war.

There are enough 30 year olds and up n coming 20's that are working on shyt now.... we'll be aight.

Nobody went in though Just people that are biased against religion and spirituality. Thats cool but one day people will all see if they were right or wrong.

Thats a good point though. But are we backsliding since the 60's should be the question. Seems like we are but then again Im in my early 20's so maybe its just my age group where Im at...

 

[tmonster]

Ok I thought you meant characteristics of this God. Like what He liked and disliked.

Nonetheless why am I giving you this? Like lets get to the point you want to make.

I would like to be sure that we are clear each step of the way
I will not sacrifice clarity for brevity
there is no clock, this is a friendly discussion with no time limit
you need not rush to answer and I am willing to follow your musings at your leisure

to wit

so to be clear
when it comes to the god you pray to, you are claiming to know the following:
-He/She/It exists
-He/She/It created good and evil
-Because he/she/it created good and evil, therefore he/she/it must transcend good and evil
Ignoring that you have not qualified what "transcending" means nor why a creator must "transcend" their creation (as if the latter is axiomatic, yet I don't see why that would be), would that summarize what it is you KNOW about that god you "pray" to?

 

[NZA]

People migrate.

but those scriptures did not migrate to that area, they only got acquainted with the bible through slavery long after the scriptures were written. the actual intended audience of those scriptures whent through slavery thousands of years prior, and obviously wrote and interpreted those scriptures within the context of their own history.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

Africans were first brought to the US in ships as slaves in (allegedly) 1619. 2019 would make this 400 years that they have been in America. Why is this (400)number important? It may not be but I saw in someone's sig this bible verse....

Genesis 15
13 Then the Lord said to him, “Know for certain that for four hundred years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and that they will be enslaved and mistreated there. 14 But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will come out with great possessions.

Add what is said in Deuteronomy 28 and it seems possible that this could apply to the western blacks in America. Question is does it? When do the tables turn for the downtrodden?

there should a holiday

 

[Everythingg]

but those scriptures did not migrate to that area, they only got acquainted with the bible through slavery long after the scriptures were written. the actual intended audience of those scriptures whent through slavery thousands of years prior, and obviously wrote and interpreted those scriptures within the context of their own history.

Ethiopia?

 

[NZA]

Ethiopia?

we are not ethiopians

 

[Everythingg]

I would like to be sure that we are clear each step of the way
I will not sacrifice clarity for brevity
there is no clock, this is a friendly discussion with no time limit
you need not rush to answer and I am willing to follow your musings at your leisure

You're actually right here. Though tomorrow aint always promised

so to be clear
when it comes to the god you pray to, you are claiming to know the following:
-He/She/It exists
-He/She/It created good and evil
-Because he/she/it created good and evil, therefore he/she/it must transcend good and evil
Ignoring that you have not qualified what "transcending" means nor why a creator must "transcend" their creation (as if the latter is axiomatic, yet I don't see why that would be), would that summarize what it is you KNOW about that god you "pray" to?

Good thing that you put He/She/It. Heres three more

- God didnt just create evil but all of existence. Everything that exists, exists because of God.
- God is genderless. Not a man not a woman.
-There is no image of God that is to be bowed down to or prayed to or venerated etc...

"Why must (the) Creator transcend their creation."

Gotcha. Let me ask you a question.

If I give you a pencil and a piece of paper and tell you to create something, can you create anything BEYOND what I gave you?

 

[tmonster]

You're actually right here. Though tomorrow aint always promised




Good thing that you put He/She/It. Heres three more

- God didnt just create evil but all of existence. Everything that exists, exists because of God.
- God is genderless. Not a man not a woman.
-There is no image of God that is to be bowed down to or prayed to or venerated etc...

ok how do you know these 6 things?
does you knowing them mean they are fact?
what does it mean for you to know something?
are there criteria that should be used in order to define something as knowledge?
or can something be called knowledge for any reason?

"Why must (the) Creator transcend their creation."

Gotcha. Let me ask you a question.

If I give you a pencil and a piece of paper can you create anything BEYOND what I gave you?

yes, I can
-a drawing
-a poem
-a note
-an imprint identifier
-kindle
-a paper plane or boat

so on and so on
but how does this show that creator transcends creation? and what do you transcend?

 

[Everythingg]

we are not ethiopians

If some went to ethiopia, could others have went elsewhere?

Not to mention the sons of Abraham which are even higher in number than the Israelites...

 

[Kritic]

niccas need to put the bible down and look around at what's happening. that bible wasn't written by ppl like you for ppl like you. 'might be able to relate to some parts but all in all it ain't for us. infact the only time we're there is when we're slaves.
that literature is for middle easterns and for europeans that hijacked it.

i'm not gonna get into a 10 page debate over the bible. i really don't care for it and movements based on it.