Snowden is a whistle-blower...AND a bit of a traitor. Sorry. I gotta say it.

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yet here you are criticizing a man and other posters who feel the same way.

call it hypocrisy if you want.

i can it a standard.

I don't stand on much. I'm not religious and I'm damn sure not a blind jingoistic nationalist....

...but we gotta admit, as long as we live here, we gotta have some ground rules cause at our very core we don't have much in common but the rule of law and that influence.

I figure a lot of ya'll don't even has passports sometimes to see how the rest of the world really and truly is. Its not scary or anything...but to ignore the power of the USA and just shy that off with this new brand of American-Success-Guilt...is ridiculous.

I supprot making the US BETTER...not trying to shag it down like i'm an outsider.

You don't make the country better by sharing US intelligence.

 

[Kritic]

i think he's a lame. Seems like your typical anti authority dork.

If you found a flaw in that system the only way to change it would be to work your way up and change it from the inside because it's a massive institution. shyt like that can't be changed by yelling at it or exposing the things it's doing wrong. The best thing for him to do is try to influence where he was working some how, although that would probably be impossible, it's the only way.

And the way he went about it was terrible. Just dropping all the information on another creep like glenn greenwald who is another person with hidden agenda's and is just all around catty and goofy. He should be brought back and charged with whatever.

the whole system is a fraud. there is no changing it.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Ystuff

Alright you really need to stop posting in that fragment style. It makes your shyt annoying to read and isn't goal oriented. Second, yeah, I know the reality of international relations is that you have to be a goon. And obviously everyone's spying on everyone. Nobody with a brain is surprised by that shyt. It's been known.

 

[DEAD7]

You can't focus, can you?

You're talking about ONE thing snowden did.

Address why he's gotta share how we catch criminals and spy on other countries?

I personally believe the govt. should be completely transparent, and if there is a function it cant do transparently it shouldnt be doing it.

That said, being forced into exile for doing the right thing probably has him feeling some kind of way.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How about you tell us what was in the Pentagon Papers and what was revealed in it? And then you can compare to the information Snowden leaked.

I'll wait princess. Take your time.

Did the Pentagon papers expose how the USA tracks criminals and monitors foreign leaders?

No.

The Church Committee revealed "a lot" ( word to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Helms#Plea.2C_aftermath ) but that was under the rule of law.

Does it sound duplicitous and like sheer pageantry? Absolutely.

But its how we do things.

 

[Type Username Here]

call it hypocrisy if you want.

i can it a standard.

I don't stand on much. I'm not religious and I'm damn sure not a blind jingoistic nationalist....

...but we gotta admit, as long as we live here, we gotta have some ground rules cause at our very core we don't have much in common but the rule of law and that influence.

I figure a lot of ya'll don't even has passports sometimes to see how the rest of the world really and truly is. Its not scary or anything...but to ignore the power of the USA and just shy that off with this new brand of American-Success-Guilt...is ridiculous.

I supprot making the US BETTER...not trying to shag it down like i'm an outsider.

You don't make the country better by sharing US intelligence.

I am American. I love this country and people for the most part. I'd die for this country and I have no shame in saying that. But these Corporations, Wealthy People and Corrupt Government Agencies/Politicians are NOT the United States of America. Their behavior, both domestically and internationally, has not only put a strain on our civil liberties, safety and economy, but has built hate and mistrust in our people. The country is lost. For the best of my family I am trying to go somewhere better soon. The country is lost because of average day people like yourself. People like yourself allow the former entities who have hijacked our government to exist. You excuse abuse of labor by the wealthy. You excuse violating the constitution. You excuse tyranny and fascism.

How can you say you love this country when you don't love everything it's supposed to stand for? Miss me with that shyt.

 

[Kritic]

What Snowden did was Brave, but what he did afterwards was cac level. At most what they would have done was arrest him, not kill him.

Now he is in Russia after running like a bytch to Hong Kong, and if he gets abducted, chances are the US Government wont find the body.

The public would cry outrage for him to be released, and given a fair trial if he stayed home.

when the zionists catch up with him they gonna make an example of him publicly so no one ever thinks about it.

ppl must be aware that our govt has been taken over and know who exactly it is and stop using titles like the "US govt".

the nsa is a zionist program for controlling ppl to their one world agenda.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

I'm black too...but be honest with me?

Are you leaving the US?

If not, then you've gotta address why you haven't left yet...

Cause if you're not going to...then you've gotta try and make America BETTER, not abandon it for its past flaws.

Breh... I'm actually working DAILY to leave the US that's my main goal goal for 2014 I gotta get the fukk outta here

 

[Type Username Here]

Did the Pentagon papers expose how the USA tracks criminals and monitors foreign leaders?

No.

The Church Committee revealed "a lot" ( word to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Helms#Plea.2C_aftermath ) but that was under the rule of law.

Does it sound duplicitous and like sheer pageantry? Absolutely.

But its how we do things.

I will keep asking you to tell me what was in the Pentagon Papers. What was revealed? Please contrast it to what Snow revealed.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I personally believe the govt. should be completely transparent, and if there is a function it cant do transparently it shouldnt be doing it.

That said, being forced into exile for doing the right thing probably has him feeling some kind of way.

This is precisely why you're the biggest clown on this board.

I hope you're never in a position of power or influence.

I bet you wanted the text message that the CIA was planning on hitting the house in Abottabad where OBL was napping, right? (if you believe the official story or not)

 

[Poppa_Dock]

the whole system is a fraud. there is no changing it.

there technically is though because people have got in there and set up these things. Im only 24 but it seems like for the last 50 years anybody who was against anything the government did just protested or created scandals in the media. We know all the names of big protestors and groups who tried to slander the government throughout the years, do we know all the names of the people on the inside who put these things in place? No, why? because they are on the inside doing work. They don't give a shyt about letting people know what needs to be done they go get it done.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

I personally believe the govt. should be completely transparent, and if there is a function it cant do transparently it shouldnt be doing it. .

How can you...

Why do you....

DUDE!!!!


How and why are you so this or that with everything???

 

[Kritic]

This is precisely why you're the biggest clown on this board.

I hope you're never in a position of power or influence.
I bet you wanted the text message that the CIA was planning on hitting the house in Abottabad where OBL was napping, right? (if you believe the official story or not)

i bet you believe the story

 

[DEAD7]

This is precisely why you're the biggest clown on this board.

I hope you're never in a position of power or influence.
I bet you wanted the text message that the CIA was planning on hitting the house in Abottabad where OBL was napping, right? (if you believe the official story or not)

A lot of the things you think we shouldnt know, wouldnt be going on if we knew, and I think thats a net benefit to us and the world.

Crazy I know.

 

[DEAD7]

How can you...

Why do you....

DUDE!!!!


How and why are you so this or that with everything???

Just government.