Shouting match between Zelensky and Trump

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I do find it funny

That europeans want us out of peoples business and cry about it non stop.

But want us to save them when they in trouble at same time .

Dont want to be held responsible, pay for their defense, yet criticize america non stop all while want daddy usa to defend them.

Trust fund europe can save them then. Trump is not america. But theyre using his push back as a reason to shyt on america all day. So fukk them. Its not our job to defend these people. We pick and choose. Its not a foregone conclusion.

Subtle threats against america? Good luck with all that. America is NOT scared of russia. And russia is NEVER coming here. What a stupid ass statement.

The coke got him feelin like scarface. Never seen a leader of a country coked out on live tv like this guy.
Trump stans are showing their ass in this thread:smh:
 

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Europeans and the rest of NATO is to blame for this shyt if we're being honest.

They sat by and let this shyt take place on their doorstep. Could have finished this long ago :hubie:


Joe wouldn't let them take the oil fields bc he wanted gas prices low for the election.....look how that turned out :snoop:


Cheese stain serving us up with no hesitation now :francis:
 

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I’m confused about the WWIII comments. Who exactly would be fighting whom? For the past 80 years the threat of the next world war was U.S. v Russia as the main parties. Well that damm sure ain’t happening with the way Trump is slurping Putin.

europe can't allow russia to grow it's borders closer to them. better to deal with them now than later since they are weaker and farther from their borders.

europe tried to placate russia and bring them into the fold by buying their oil and gas but russia was basically using that as leverage until they said fukk your leverage and started getting their energy needs met elsewhere.

if a war between europe and russia pops off, the american economy will take a hit since we'll be seling way fewer goods and services to countries at war, airline industry will basically be inoperable in that region. we'll see a huge refugee crisis too.
 
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Youre their biggest ally and youre telling them to bend over and take it next to you though :jbhmm:

I’m not a Zelensky or Ukraine fanboy either way this goes… but is he wrong… well let me rephrase that, is he lying?

The United States is not an ally to Ukraine. The Trump admin is telling them that our aid is conditional, not a blank check. Hence when Zelensky spoke last time saying he thought it was a grant, not a loan. He got into hot water saying that.

Trump isn't saying "bend over and take it". He's telling Zelensky they cannot win this war. The US is not directly involved and won't be giving money forever. Negotiate whatever peace you can now because any ongoing war is just going to result in more dead Ukrainian men. 4 years ago we had idiots on this very forum saying Russia can't beat Ukraine and now Ukraine is only in one piece because the US is around.

When your survival relies on an outside entity, you do whatever it takes to keep it that way. It may sound unfair, but its a hell of a lot better than being wiped from existence.
 
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