Shouting match between Zelensky and Trump

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I'm from Europe. I was born in the Soviet Union. I don't really consume US media. I also happen to speak decent Russian.

you speak romanian?

So I have a good understanding of the nonsense their propaganda channels produce. Every other European country manages to peacefully coexist.

that's not true. see the balkans.

Even the likes of Turkey and Greece. Just not Russia. Maybe it's not the other 50+ countries. Maybe it really is Russia.

history points to 4 great warring powers in europe - britain, france, germany and russia.

the EU and prosperity bound the first three of these together for the last 80 years. say 60 post heavy occupation.

that is not very long.

prior to that germany had three ware in 100 years. then they achieved economic domination through mercantilism.

germany did not have access to fissile material until recently and their army has been hobbled because they cannot be trusted .. SO maybe it is the germans too.

modern history european history is these four nations battling for supremacy.

even so, i am not saying that russia not an aggressor. i am saying that america (the great critic) is one too and that america would do the same thing in the same position. possibly worse.

TL;DR maybe it is the russians and the germans too ..

And it can't help that so many people mythicize Russia like it's some sort of misunderstood great empire. It's not. It's just a country with a surprisingly small economy and filled with people who are willing to die for their great overlord and mother Russia like some ultimate MAGA idiots.

gott mit uns :hubie: .

All while earning 300 dollars, drinking lighter fluid and living without plumbing.
 

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Everyone thinking U.S is trying to rip Russia and China apart.

I think it’s much more likely Russia and China are trying to rip the U.S from Europe. They’re doing a great job so far.





Even worse when your guy works for the other team.

Republicans really want to give our country or at least Europe to Russia (who is working with China to get this done).

Our Republican Party is full of little edge lords who thought Russia was cool when they were younger. Little did they consider how they think of Europe is how Russia and China thinks of us: pampered.
 
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Everyone thinking U.S is trying to rip Russia and China apart.

I think it’s much more likely Russia and China are trying to rip the U.S from Europe.





Even worse when your guy works for the other team.

Republicans really want to give our country or at least Europe to Russia (who is working with China to get this done).

they suck Reagan off so much (at least the Republican Party Pre Maga), but they cool with this shyt?
 

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its beyond all that.


His first statement to Zelensky is "you arent position to negotiate"

already posturing based on primitive power dynamics in a very public setting.

What sort of human being does that? Thats something you say behind closed doors or in a private meeting.


But to get up on the world stage and repeat the same negotiating line of "you arent in a position to negotiate", you arent negotiating.

You are operating through bullying and extortion, thats low level brute shyt. Anybody with another strength in numbers or money can do that.


George Bush was able to get countries to buy into the Iraq invasion.


Id argue he's a more capable negotiator than Trump

Good post @BaggerofTea

How was George Bush able to get countries to buy into the Iraq invasion?
 

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Zelensky is biting the hand that has feed him 350 billion dollars. He needs to shut TF up.

Trump told him.the truth. The US saved him. He needs to be humble
Oh shut the hell up it’s only been 119 billion which is less than the EU 138 billion
 

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Everyone thinking U.S is trying to rip Russia and China apart.

It’s much more likely Russia and China are trying to rip the U.S from Europe.





Even worse when your guy works for the other team.

Republicans really want to give our country or at least Europe to Russia (who is working with China to get this done).


BREH I SWEAR I PROPHECIZED THIS TO MY WIFE MONTHS AGO!

I said that other countries are going to start to recruit Americans for top tier jobs.

This is the start :lupe:

At the end of it all, we are looking at reverse immigration and migration. While this country ends up left in the dust because it's going to take a longggg time before the USA gets back to the basics.
 
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