shouldn't Ancient Egypt be counted as an extension of Nubia?

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You think like a simpleton and I already pulled your card in this thread...

Nobody is disputing human migrations out of africa, the humans who stayed there retained their physical traits due to environmental factors, and those who left had their physical traits adapt accordingly. Those Indians who stayed isolated in the forests and damp environments look the way they do because of those reasons. It's really not that complicated. The indus valley was not an "African civilization." It was an Indian civilization with its own characteristics through and through.

The caste system originally was a way to divide society based on specific roles, from the priests down to the manual laborers, as I already explained. Color/race has nothing to do with it.

Aren't you mixed or something? I'm a "high caste" indian and probably darker than you

Nobody knows what race the Indus Valley was..there are no records...but what we do have is a statue called "the dancing girl" it's clearly african..she could of been a princess, someone else..but nobody knows who she was..so they called her "the dancing girl" ..so show me proof that the Indus Valley people were light skinned Indians..you can't and you won't

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Nobody knows what race the Indus Valley was..there are no records...but what we do have is a statue called "the dancing girl" it's clearly african..she could of been a princess, someone else..but nobody knows who she was..so they called her "the dancing girl" ..so show me proof that the Indus Valley people were light skinned Indians..you can't and you won't

What's clearly African about that statue? Looks like an Indian woman to me.

That looks like an African man to you

And when did I say they were light skinned?

 

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What's clearly African about that statue? Looks like an Indian woman to me.

That looks like an African man to you

And when did I say they were light skinned?

http://saggigga.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/indusvalleycivilization/

Quote from someone who was around at that time..

Ancient India was once called Ethiopia. Herodotus believed that the Ethiopians came from India. That belief can only make sense if the Indians were black. There were three different groups of Black people in Ancient India: the Dravidians, the Veddoids, and the Negritos.

Lol at the dancing girl being Indian..her slender body..the way she has her hands on her hips like a black woman..and her lips, proves she's black..just stop kid

 

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ethnic group called mohana that resides in the indus valley, have clusters with ethiopians, and some somalis bruh.
they also group heavily with pakistani's

“Mohanna grouped with the Ethiopian Jews (Falaasha), Biaka, Somali, and the Mbuti.”

“Although the Mohanna share the seven-repeat allele with the Dravidians, the multidimensional scaling analysis does nop. lace Mohanna close to the Dravidian population, thus precluding any common ancestry between these two groups…”


“Multidimensional scaling analysis places the Mohanna close to the African data of Chang et. al. (1996) and the Somali data obtained in the current study.”


E3b1-delta cluster in Pakistan. The evidence from the Early Mehrgarh Neolithic is indicative of a spread from SW AsiaThat


this is from a polymorhic test of locus clusters

What's clearly African about that statue? Looks like an Indian woman to me.

looks like an African man to you

And when did I say they were light skinned?

 

[observe]

ethnic group called mohana that resides in the indus valley, have clusters with ethiopians, and some somalis bruh.
they also group heavily with pakistani's

“Mohanna grouped with the Ethiopian Jews (Falaasha), Biaka, Somali, and the Mbuti.”

“Although the Mohanna share the seven-repeat allele with the Dravidians, the multidimensional scaling analysis does nop. lace Mohanna close to the Dravidian population, thus precluding any common ancestry between these two groups…”


“Multidimensional scaling analysis places the Mohanna close to the African data of Chang et. al. (1996) and the Somali data obtained in the current study.”


E3b1-delta cluster in Pakistan. The evidence from the Early Mehrgarh Neolithic is indicative of a spread from SW AsiaThat


this is from a polymorhic test of locus clusters

Good shyt breh.. I wish @GetInTheTruck would post his photo..I bet he's some lame looking Indian clown..

 

[GetInTheTruck]

ethnic group called mohana that resides in the indus valley, have clusters with ethiopians, and some somalis bruh.
they also group heavily with pakistani's

“Mohanna grouped with the Ethiopian Jews (Falaasha), Biaka, Somali, and the Mbuti.”

“Although the Mohanna share the seven-repeat allele with the Dravidians, the multidimensional scaling analysis does nop. lace Mohanna close to the Dravidian population, thus precluding any common ancestry between these two groups…”


“Multidimensional scaling analysis places the Mohanna close to the African data of Chang et. al. (1996) and the Somali data obtained in the current study.”


E3b1-delta cluster in Pakistan. The evidence from the Early Mehrgarh Neolithic is indicative of a spread from SW AsiaThat


this is from a polymorhic test of locus clusters

You are quoting Clyde Winters, a guy who is not qualified to speak on genetics. He is just another internet scholar with an agenda. And anyway, based on what you're claiming, Ethiopians have more commonalities with Dravidians than they do sub-saharan Africans. Is that really what you want to promote? be careful.

Dravidians are not East African, they are Indian. Dravidians have their own language completely unrelated to anything spoken in Africa. That's just a fact. They are their own people, with their own culture, and own identity.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Good shyt breh.. I wish @GetInTheTruck would post his photo..I bet he's some lame looking Indian clown..

http://saggigga.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/indusvalleycivilization/

Quote from someone who was around at that time..



Lol at the dancing girl being Indian..her slender body..the way she has her hands on her hips like a black woman..and her lips, proves she's black..just stop kid

Nice

 

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You are quoting Clyde Winters, a guy who is not qualified to speak on genetics. He is just another internet scholar with an agenda. And anyway, based on what you're claiming, Ethiopians have more commonalities with Dravidians than they do sub-saharan Africans. Is that really what you want to promote? be careful.

Dravidians are not East African, they are Indian. Dravidians have their own language completely unrelated to anything spoken in Africa. That's just a fact. They are their own people, with their own culture, and own identity.

woah, clyde winters isnt an internet scholar; he graduated from evergreen university. and if you actually read the post, dravidians have SOME clusters with horners that is evident. it is known that west/central/southern africans are genetically related to horner africans more. and i understand dravidians are there own people and are
definantly indians, but by a U.S. scial construct; they're black and they cluster with black africans

this shows how close the indus valley ethnic group mohanna clusters with horners (horners absorbed an substantial ammount of indian genetics ( but not enough to considered mix)

 

[GetInTheTruck]

woah, clyde winters isnt an internet scholar; he graduated from evergreen university. and if you actually read the post, dravidians have SOME clusters with horners that is evident. it is known that west/central/southern africans are genetically related to horner africans more. and i understand dravidians are there own people and are
definantly indians, but by a U.S. scial construct; they're black and they cluster with black africans

this shows how close the indus valley ethnic group clusters with horners (horners absorbed an substantial ammount of indian genetics ( but not enough to considered mix)

If you want to consider them black based on US social constructs, that's fine...but racially, Dravidians are no where near "black african" in the sense that they are not negroid. Aside from skin color, which really doesn't mean anything, the similarities end.

Like I said, based on what you're saying, Ethiopians and Somalis share more of a racial affinity with Dravidian Indians than they do west, central, and south Africans. Is that what you are advocating?

There are over 200 million Dravidian people in India. You can call them "black" all you want, I won't dispute that, but they aint Africans. REAL genetic studies have linked certain segments of Dravidian populations in Sri Lanka to Australian aborigines. Not Ethiopians/Somalis.

 

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If you want to consider them black based on US social constructs, that's fine...but racially, Dravidians are no where near "black african" in the sense that they are not negroid. Aside from skin color, which really doesn't mean anything, the similarities end.

Like I said, based on what you're saying, Ethiopians and Somalis share more of a racial affinity with Dravidian Indians than they do west, central, and south Africans. Is that what you are advocating?

There are over 200 million Dravidian people in India. You can call them "black" all you want, I won't dispute that, but they aint Africans. REAL genetic studies have linked certain segments of Dravidian populations in Sri Lanka to Australian aborigines. Not Ethiopians/Somalis.

race doesnt exist along with the outdated racist terms such as negroi,mongoloid,australoid,etc. i never said dravidians were africans, i said they cluster with east africans. and currently horners are mixed to a degree (so they do have admixture of indians that isnt significant that they represent an indian population) west africans cluster more with east africans than dravidians by a long shot. you took the whole study out of context, so heres my ending post that uses logic and understanding for you:
dravidians are black (by U.s. construct)
dravidians arent african
dravidians cluster with some east african tribes
dravidians do not cluster with horners more than west/central/south africans
dravidans are indians
negroid term is debunked

 

[MostReal]

Good shyt breh.. I wish @GetInTheTruck would post his photo..I bet he's some lame looking Indian clown..

dude actually looks black, but because he's Indian...he doesn't want Indians to be black when in fact they were/are black

 

[Im Kemet Rocky & I like penis]

dude actually looks black, but because he's Indian...he doesn't want Indians to be black when in fact they were/are black

not all indians are black though....you could say dravidians and some indians are black....

 

[GetInTheTruck]

race doesnt exist along with the outdated racist terms such as negroi,mongoloid,australoid,etc. i never said dravidians were africans, i said they cluster with east africans. and currently horners are mixed to a degree (so they do have admixture of indians that isnt significant that they represent an indian population) west africans cluster more with east africans than dravidians by a long shot. you took the whole study out of context, so heres my ending post that uses logic and understanding for you:
dravidians are black (by U.s. construct)
dravidians arent african
dravidians cluster with some east african tribes
dravidians do not cluster with horners more than west/central/south africans
dravidans are indians
negroid term is debunked

OK I'll roll with you on that, although I don't completely accept the genetic data I can respect that position.

 

[MostReal]

not all indians are black though....you could say dravidians and some indians are black....

I agree...but if you saw his pic. You'd call him a blackman...lightskin but he black

 

[GetInTheTruck]

dude actually looks black, but because he's Indian...he doesn't want Indians to be black when in fact they were/are black

Breh we can all be black Its not about that, It's about being careful about appropriating the identity of others.

As far as what I look like I look west Indian to a lot of people. I got the kind of look where I can blend in among any kind of colored folk aside from Asians.