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So after watching the first 2 episodes and seeing the previews for the later episode's, it does look like we're getting backdoored into a white savior plot.

My suspicion was first peeked with the storm scene. There's simply no reason the Japanese would allow a European pilot to navigate a Japanese ship in Japanese waters. The chill viewer isn't going to care, but I fully understand how that scene feeds into the belief that only Europeans knew how to navigate the seas. It's why you're not taught that European explorers had native, African, and Islamic navigators on their ships.

Why wouldn't the Japanese know how to predict that a storm was coming? Why would the Japanese need to be told how to handle steering in a storm? Why wouldn't the Japanese have their own pilot?

Small details like that are overlooked as plot devices but this is how you smuggle ideas of European superiority.
Portuguese and European ships did crash off the coast of Japan often, when the Japanese government collapsed one of the big Daimyo’s found a Portuguese ship crashed and found a ton of muskets. He had a peasant army and decided to use the guns in a time where most of the other Daimyo’s considered it dishonorable, it helped him gain an edge. It was theorized the ship was headed for China.
 

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:francis: Because with his own mouth homie volunteered his bloodline and they took him at his word. Not following through with a "Nah, chill I wasn't actually serious about that" would add to the disgrace, tarnishing Toranaga's reputation even more. Like not only do your goons speak out of turn to accuse their betters, they can't even commit to their word.

Also this is Edo period where they were on that mabiki ("fukk them kids") time. They didn't chill with the infanticide until Meiji Restoration.
Did he kill himself too? I hate to be racist but I’m having a real hard time telling these characters apart. From what i can tell, that was the lead characters right hand man’s son in law? And that guys son is married to the chick who’s interpreting for him?
 

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Did he kill himself too? I hate to be racist but I’m having a real hard time telling these characters apart. From what i can tell, that was the lead characters right hand man’s son in law? And that guys son is married to the chick who’s interpreting for him?

no he was married to Toranaga's right hand man granddaughter...the lady holding the baby and knife to her throat
 

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Did he kill himself too? I hate to be racist but I’m having a real hard time telling these characters apart. From what i can tell, that was the lead characters right hand man’s son in law? And that guys son is married to the chick who’s interpreting for him?

:mjgrin: The chonmage hairlines got you fukked up huh?
 

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temu hardy got peed on now he fukking bad bytches in the next episodes... it gets better man :wow:

show is hella good. So was that shorty at the end of episode 2 a ronin or onna musha? bodies really hitting the floor which is good.
 

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you all not going to talk about dude that killed his whole lineage?:mjcry:

Im still scratching my head at the situation...why that poor baby had to die ? :to:


and everybody acting like it was a regular monday :why:
From what I read either he committed that or the council committed it for him. Drawing your sword and interrupting a lord more powerful than you inside the hall was a capital offense.

The offense was so offensive that he had to seppuku his whole lineage, so that everyone would know

 

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Yabushige hitting the :shaq: seeing that porno unfold before his eyes. :dead:

Drinking his sake like :sas1: :sas2:

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Just completely dumbfounded
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yabushige crawled so Diddy could walk🤣
founder of the first "freak off"
 
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