Shogun (FX/Hulu) - February 2024 :ohhh:
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PoorAndDangerous
Superstar
wish.com tom hardy is actually not bad
KalKal
Superstar
I just came up with a weird comparison after 2 episodes.
This version of Anjin-San reminds me slightly of Marty Byrd from Ozark. He keeps finding a way to just barely talk himself out of life and death situations at the last second. I
This version of Anjin-San reminds me slightly of Marty Byrd from Ozark. He keeps finding a way to just barely talk himself out of life and death situations at the last second. I
So after watching the first 2 episodes and seeing the previews for the later episode's, it does look like we're getting backdoored into a white savior plot.
My suspicion was first peeked with the storm scene. There's simply no reason the Japanese would allow a European pilot to navigate a Japanese ship in Japanese waters. The chill viewer isn't going to care, but I fully understand how that scene feeds into the belief that only Europeans knew how to navigate the seas. It's why you're not taught that European explorers had native, African, and Islamic navigators on their ships.
Why wouldn't the Japanese know how to predict that a storm was coming? Why would the Japanese need to be told how to handle steering in a storm? Why wouldn't the Japanese have their own pilot?
Small details like that are overlooked as plot devices but this is how you smuggle ideas of European superiority.
yeah that had me LOL
the Japanese were people that literally left their ancestors by boat, lived on an island, and fishing is one their main source of food...yet...they need foreign pilots to navigate their own waters and command them to row??
if they Japanese don't have an issue with this story
I'm just here to enjoy this
Also if you've watched Kingdom (please do!), this show takes place right afterwards.
Kingdom: Set in the 16th century and three years after the end of the Imjin War. Imjin ends 1598, so 1601.
John says he's a subject of the Queen. That can only be Queen Elizabeth I. She dies 1603.
Taiko and Toranaga mention a failed Korean invasion. This had to be a reference to Imjin.
Kingdom: Set in the 16th century and three years after the end of the Imjin War. Imjin ends 1598, so 1601.
John says he's a subject of the Queen. That can only be Queen Elizabeth I. She dies 1603.
Taiko and Toranaga mention a failed Korean invasion. This had to be a reference to Imjin.
zerorequiem
All Star
Excellent all around.
Realm-Breaker
Sometimes known as Were-Breaker/Cunning Linguist
I'm going to watch this! it looks cool! 
LinusCaldwell
From The Eastside with Love
This show is dope. I wonder why they speak Japanese but they didn’t let them speak Portuguese too.
beenz
Rap Guerilla
Why couldn't they dub the Japanese? Just like on narcos, I dunno want to read half of the dialog.
Spidey Man
Superstar
There's an English dub on Hulu.
LinusCaldwell
From The Eastside with Love
I want it to be all the way. They don’t need to speak English at all unless it’s their native language.
KalKal
Superstar
can't please everyone