Shedding light on the ugly domestic violence epidemic in the black community

[bcrusaderw]

You pretend that good black men dont exist.

Not the same

I have never said that. They do, but like you yourself said the thugs are a much higher population.

 

[agnosticlady]

Okay, so what do you say to the woman in the OP and this woman?
Woman fatally stabbed in Berlin Twp.

The both of them were killed after they left the relationship and distanced themselves from their abusers



The guy in the OP broke into their home and savagely murdered his EX-wife, the ex-wife also had a restraining order on him.

Clearly I am not talking about the women who left and got killed. Stop twisting my words to fit your narrative. I am speaking about women who have the ability to leave but they stay then they end up dead - no surprise there.

 

[Barnett114]

Some of the posts here

 

[Barnett114]

agnosticlady's posts too

 

[MoonGoddess]

That's like saying you have to own a bank to know how to invest or save money. I know women who have been in abusive relationships. I don't have to be in one to speak about it, because if everyone was agreeing with your perspective you more than likely wouldn't say that.

Lol you don't have to be in anything to speak on it apparently. You have so much second hand experience, you should really think about writing a book for those who like to experience things vicariously through others.
You think that person that never owned a bank will ever know how to run one?
They can write all the books about investing or saving money they want but they can never put out a first person narrative about owning a bank.
I suppose they can always interview and actual bank owner tho

 

[Blackout]

I have never said that. They do, but like you yourself said the thugs are a much higher population.

Yea they are higher yet for some reason the nerdy men that are still left aren't held in high value for some reason until they date out or something

 

[Spike Tarantino]

I can only speak on LA women

You'd still be wrong but...

"My ex boyfriend is a thug or gangbanger"----Every black woman

To be fair, you spoke on every black woman.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I think you've been mislead and I respectfully disagree.

 

[Big Daddy]

Things aren't that simple.

That's another WEAK, DEFEATIST, COP-OUT, statement that gets tossed around, that I absolutely abhor with every fiber of my existence.

It literally IS THAT SIMPLE.

And if the woman doesn't leave when the opportunity presents itself, I have ZERO sympathy.

 

[Matt504]

"Black women need to be quiet about being abused by Black men because it could lead to Black men being harmed by the system that's out to harm Black men AND women, so just take one or multiple for the team and keep quiet"

this is exactly what's being implied here and in other discussions concerning Black male violence against Black women, Black men are quick to silence it because of possible implications against Black men, for example, the street harassment discussion where Black men were trying minimize women's real life experiences because "this could possibly lead to legislation that will affect Black men in the FUTURE", with zero concern about what's affecting Black women in the NOW.

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• tariqeliteThey are putting up these#streetharassment murals in #NYCnow..Just like clockwork. I have been warning people about these street harassment campaigns for two years now. They are going to use this "street harassment" excuse to further criminalize Melanoid people.

 

[GoldTeef]

I am speaking about women who have the ability to leave but they stay then they end up dead - no surprise there.

And I'm not twisting your words, I'm showing you examples of women who left their abusive relationships and were still killed.

Let's look at some of the reasons they choose to stay, shall we?

Compelling Reasons Women Stay

A woman may fear her partner’s actions if she leaves.

• My partner said he will hunt me down and kill me.
• My partner will kidnap the children and disappear.
• My partner will take my passport and immigration papers.
• My partner will spread horrible rumors about me.
• She will “out” me at work or to my family.
• My partner will have me deported or report me to the INS.
• My partner will stop the processing of my Green Card.

>My partner said he will hunt me down and kill me

The effects of abuse may make it difficult to leave.

• I’m nothing. I don’t deserve better.
• I feel paralyzed.
• I can’t face making decisions anymore.
• I was brainwashed to believe that I couldn’t cope without my partner.
• I am so used to life being this way.
• I’m more comfortable with what I know, than the unknown out in the world.

A woman may have concerns about her children.

• My children will blame me and resent me.
• The kids need a father.
• She will tell my ex-spouse or authorities that I am a lesbian so they will take the kids.
• Children need a “real family”.
• My partner will steal the children.
• My partner will kill the children.
• My partner will turn the children against me.
• She is the biological mother; I have no legal rights.

A partner’s attempts to isolate a woman may make it difficult for her to leave or get help.

• My partner doesn’t let me out of the house.
• I have no friends to call for help anymore.
• My partner doesn’t let me take English classes so I can’t communicate with anyone.
• If I ever tell anyone about this, my partner will kill me.
• My sister said I couldn’t come and stay with her anymore, after the last time…
• My partner said he or she would teach my friend a lesson if I go over there again.
• My partner hides my wheelchair so I cannot leave the house.

A woman’s personal history may have shaped her attitude toward abuse in relationships.

• My father beat my mom – it just goes with being in a relationship.
• Getting hit isn’t the worst thing that can happen in a family – I know of worse things.
• I have seen a lot of violence in my country so violence has become normal for me.
• My parents never gave up on one another.

A woman may be deeply attached to her partner and hope for change.

• I believe my partner when he or she says that it will never happen again.
• My partner promised to go to therapy.
• I cherish the sex and intimacy.
• My partner is really loving towards me most of the time.
• My marriage vows.
• My religion.
• I love her or him.

Some women are taught that it is their job to maintain the relationship and support their partners, so they may feel guilty about leaving or feel they have “failed.”

• I will ruin his or her life if I leave.
• My partner will have nowhere to go.
• My partner will lose her or his job if I report this.
• My partner tells me the system does not support non-citizens.
• My partner will start drinking again.
• I will disappoint my family. I can’t admit my relationship is a failure.
• I am afraid the deaf community will reject me.
• I have to take care of him or her.
• She or he wouldn’t hurt me if I were better at keeping up the house.

Women may be economically dependent on their partners or their partners may be economically dependent on them.

• My partner has all the money.
• I’ve never had a good job. How would I take care of my kids alone?
• I have no work experience in this country.
• It’s better to be beaten up at home than to be out on the streets.
• My partner won’t let me send any money overseas.
• My disability does not enable me to work.
• I’d rather die than be on welfare.
• My partner forces me to work and then takes all my money.
• My partner charges up all my credit cards.
• My partner can’t work – he depends on me to support him.

Our culture sends the message that a woman’s value depends on her being in a relationship. Women without partners tend to be devalued.

• My partner keeps me together. I’ll fall apart if I leave.
• I have to have a man by my side.
• I would be disgraced in my community and bring shame to my family.
• People will call me a whore, a whore, or sleazy.
• I’ll be an old maid.
• I’m afraid to be on my own.

Things are not as simple as 'DUDE, JUST LEAVE LOL!!'.

 

[Spike Tarantino]

I can gursntee that there are more violent thugs than nerds

But hey lets pretend that it isn't like that lol.

A thug by definition is violent, but that is also not the point.

Point being: Even if you don't date a thug, you can catch the work. DV isn't thug exclusive.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Domestic Violence = In the House with significant other/family member not on the street vs random multiple Hoodrats with a TASER

and sometimes the perpetrators are white women women like Hope solo who beat up on her Sister and nephew

You made this thread after you were salty from the normal reactions to a Dude smacking up crazy dykes in self defence.

 

[Blackout]

A thug by definition is violent, but that is also not the point.

Point being: Even if you don't date a thug, you can catch the work. DV isn't thug exclusive.

Duhhhhhhh

It's still less likely to happen if you don't date a thug and date a nerdy dude.

I can still die from crossing the street but I shouldnt do it blindfolded lol.

 

[GoldTeef]

That's another WEAK, DEFEATIST, COP-OUT, statement that gets tossed around, that I absolutely abhor with every fiber of my existence.

It literally IS THAT SIMPLE.

And if the woman doesn't leave when the opportunity presents itself, I have ZERO sympathy.

>It literally IS THAT SIMPLE.

Not really.

>And if the woman doesn't leave when the opportunity presents itself, I have ZERO sympathy

Okay.

 

[thewiz]

I have never said that. They do, but like you yourself said the thugs are a much higher population.

Bill O'Reilly is that you??