Serious: Why wouldn’t a Black American Share More In Common Culturally With A White American over an African?

Ish Gibor

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Afro-Brit here.

Madam, you're talking out of your ass.

And most Black British people will tell you they culturally align with Black people across the diaspora BEFORE they'd do so with White British people.
She may not know certain things, but you could have explained it different. We clearly see the problem, which is the lack of communication amongst one another. She probably doesn't know that Afro-Caribbean foods is mostly based on plantains and one-pot stew, with some stuff integrated from Amerindians, Asia and Europe.
 
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I mean for people who say that we don’t share a culture with White peoples. I think a better argument is white people are culture vultures and those shared commonalities are things they appropriated than there are no commonalities. Saying white people don’t create culture or only create shytty culture makes more sense than saying we don’t have things in common.

Basically say they bite us.
 

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I mean for people who say that we don’t share a culture with White peoples. I think a better argument is white people are culture vultures and those shared commonalities are things they appropriated than there are no commonalities. Saying white people don’t create culture or only create shytty culture makes more sense than saying we don’t have things in common.

Basically say they bite us.
I do agree that there is overlapping. But that probable is region based and influenced. When I look at the cuisine (soul food) I do see influences from Africa (similar to the Caribbean), Native American and Europe.
 
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And you're still not White, but in America. :francis:

What's your response when you're reminded of that daily in how the powers that run America have now made it abundantly clear they're resevering, preserving and conserving any and everything of value for future White generations only, but not yours or the millions of Mexicans and Guat's pouring across the border in droves. :patrice:
That's what "conservatism" means to them. Or were you not aware of that fact?

Oh, you have an American passport you say. You have Statehood you believe, huh.
Trust me, that doesn't matter to most Whites. :pachaha:
The majorty no longer pretend anymore they even consider you part of the larger equation and future of America. That's what maga is all about if you're slow at learning.

You see, the immigration problem from Latin America, Muslim nations etc is going to affect Black Americans badly but not how you're thinking with them providing cheap labor and taking jobs.
Sadly soon Black Americans will be getting lumped up in the same category as illegals from Latin America and Asia.
The direction a majority of White Americans are taking doesn't favor you Sir. It never did.
They're drawing a line in the sand between White America and everyone else. And that includes you too.
But do you though brehs, and keep looking for distractions amongst Black immigrants and burying your head in the sand to avoid the truth. :ufdup:

Whites have been drawing lines in sands for 400 years now. Seems like you are slow on the uptake around here.

You're from some country in Africa, go and focus on that land instead of uselessly speculating about ADOS. We aren't like you and your people.

ADOS will be fine.

:manny:
 

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I'll say this. As a nikka that's been back to the continent a few times.

You better realize your community is the people who love you, think like you, want you to prosper and vice versa.
The biggest part of what a community is, is a shared culture.

In Africa, I love being surrounded by all the black faces. But they aren't the same as me, and i can see how they let white people enslave them smh.
Just being honest. And it was hard on me to finally come to that conclusion.
But it's the same thing I see here.

In this country, the average white person doesn't hate you, he just doesn't care about you either way. He doesn't think about you. And doesn't understand you or the things you go through because our lives are different, for the most part.
When something happens to a black person, a white person has no understanding of what blacks goes through, so they blame us for our problems.

However You thinking other black people care about you in America or Africa is crazy too. nikkaz haven't cared about each other since the beginning of time. The only time you hear something about unity, is when a black person needs something from you.
Please understand your "brother" would kill you for the things you have. You brother sees your wife and daughter not as something to care about, but as something to use.
Your "sister" will put you in a position to lose your life.
They want to be better than you, and pray for your demise.

I will always have love for black people and have sensitivity to black issues because I am black and i have first hand knowledge of our issues.
But I also understand alot of people who go through struggle. It's not just necessarily a black thing.
And I now understand the color of our skin does not make you love me or make us family. Or make our motives the same.
In short, we do not share culture.

So Im at the point now, where I love who ever has love for me but my community is just me and my family.
 

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I am not Afro-British, but I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve been to Britain, Southeast London, Brixton. Brixton is a predominantly Black area.
:jbhmm:I'll look at the sources you provided, ofc, but let me push back on this. You telling me if those MAGA knock off Brexits dikkheads tell them to go back to their country, the response wouldn't be an assertion of British identity? 'Your country was built off my people, you damn right I'm British,' or some such?
 

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:jbhmm:I'll look at the sources you provided, ofc, but let me push back on this. You telling me if those MAGA knock off Brexits dikkheads tell them to go back to their country, the response wouldn't be an assertion of British identity? 'Your country was built off my people, you damn right I'm British,' or some such?
I can’t answer that question, as I’m not of that community nor from the UK. I’m only familiar with some of the elements because I visited the UK. Your question is too deep.

I do know they have the second largest carnival after Brazil.

What I know is that music genres like Drum Bass, Jungle etc have a direct connection to Black American music. In particular House and Hip Hop.

This was stated by Goldie (Clifford Joseph Price) himself, who went visiting family in the BX in the mid to late 80s. When he went on vacation to the Bronx he got in inspired by East coast uptempo Hip Hop. And he stated to mess around with James Brown samples. Speeded it up even more and that became the origin of Jungle and Drum n Bass.



"There's a curious circularity at work in his latest show, because it was a Channel 4 documentary made when he was still a teenager that had a profound and lasting effect upon his life. Bombin', a film by dikk Fontaine, brought some of the Bronx-based pioneers of hip hop, a culture that went on to conquer the world, to the UK, including the influential street artist Brim Fuentes, and then took a group which included Goldie and 3D (who went on to form Massive Attack) to New York."



"For Goldie, on his first trip abroad, never mind his first trip over the Atlantic, the Big Apple was love at first sight. Back in Britain, he begged, borrowed and saved until he had enough to fund a return trip to the Bronx."

 
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I can’t answer that question, as I’m not of that community nor from the UK. I’m only familiar with some of the elements because I visited the UK. You question is too deep.

I do know they have the second largest carnival after Brazil.
This is why you shouldn't have answered. Respectfully. :hubie:

I've been to Europe exactly once (2015)- but in a real neighborhood with spray paint and shyt :mjlol:, not a downtown hotel- and I stayed for almost a month. I'm no expert, but you had asked before, so there's your answer. While there, the nicest white people were Brits. The Dutch are taciturn like real Brooklynites (leftover cultural debris from New Amsterdam). Old white British couples were chatting us up at restaraunts, doing that cross table thing bc they heard us speaking (American!) English.

We were staying in an apartment building full of what seemed to be Europeans there for work. We had a Polish maid and that bytch was on it, you hear me?! I had to reprimand her once, but it was smooth sailing after that. Anyway, I say all that to say, there was a British woman in the same building. I'd see her when outside smoking and we spoke. At some point, it occurred to us that we were the only women wearing heels. :skip: Such a small thing, but indicative of the true breadth of the Anglophone sphere. Ngl, we giggled together and called Dutch women ungraceful cows. :mjlol:

Having the second largest Carnival means nothing if they pause for tea time and non Anglophones dont. Get it? That's culture. (I'm not saying they DO pause, I'm just saying, weird England-derived customs that the Brazilian, Spanish, and American diaspora lack.)
 

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I'll say this. As a nikka that's been back to the continent a few times.

You better realize your community is the people who love you, think like you, want you to prosper and vice versa.
The biggest part of what a community is, is a shared culture.

In Africa, I love being surrounded by all the black faces. But they aren't the same as me, and i can see how they let white people enslave them smh.
Just being honest. And it was hard on me to finally come to that conclusion.
But it's the same thing I see here.

In this country, the average white person doesn't hate you, he just doesn't care about you either way. He doesn't think about you. And doesn't understand you or the things you go through because our lives are different, for the most part.
When something happens to a black person, a white person has no understanding of what blacks goes through, so they blame us for our problems.

However You thinking other black people care about you in America or Africa is crazy too. nikkaz haven't cared about each other since the beginning of time. The only time you hear something about unity, is when a black person needs something from you.
Please understand your "brother" would kill you for the things you have. You brother sees your wife and daughter not as something to care about, but as something to use.
Your "sister" will put you in a position to lose your life.
They want to be better than you, and pray for your demise.

I will always have love for black people and have sensitivity to black issues because I am black and i have first hand knowledge of our issues.
But I also understand alot of people who go through struggle. It's not just necessarily a black thing.
And I now understand the color of our skin does not make you love me or make us family. Or make our motives the same.
In short, we do not share culture.

So Im at the point now, where I love who ever has love for me but my community is just me and my family.
I don't think many of these things you spoke of are exclusive to Africa. I think these are things that are part of life, unfortunately.

Are you saying they hated on you wherever you went? Did I interpret that correctly?
 

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This is why you shouldn't have answered. Respectfully. :hubie:

I've been to Europe exactly once (2015)- but in a real neighborhood with spray paint and shyt :mjlol:, not a downtown hotel- and I stayed for almost a month. I'm no expert, but you had asked before, so there's your answer. While there, the nicest white people were Brits. The Dutch are taciturn like real Brooklynites (leftover cultural debris from New Amsterdam). Old white British couples were chatting us up at restaraunts, doing that cross table thing bc they heard us speaking (American!) English.

We were staying in an apartment building full of what seemed to be Europeans there for work. We had a Polish maid and that bytch was on it, you hear me?! I had to reprimand her once, but it was smooth sailing after that. Anyway, I say all that to say, there was a British woman in the same building. I'd see her when outside smoking and we spoke. At some point, it occurred to us that we were the only women wearing heels. :skip: Such a small thing, but indicative of the true breadth of the Anglophone sphere. Ngl, we giggled together and called Dutch women ungraceful cows. :mjlol:
Cool that you push back, that is needed. You have been to Europe, Europe is not a country. What countries have you been at? Have you been at Black communities? Brixton is in Southeast London and predominately Black.


You spoke of Dutch women? I don't understand, do you mean you visited the Netherland or did you meet them elsewhere in Europe? But you are right, Dutch have the tendency to be closeted racist, not so much openly and direct.

Having the second largest Carnival means nothing if they pause for tea time and non Anglophones dont. Get it? That'sculture. (I'm not saying they DO pause, I'm just saying, weird England-derived customs that the Brazilian, Spanish, and American diaspora lack.)
I am not sure if they "pause for tea time"? We have Black British on here who can confirm or deny that. I know that those from the West Indies (Caribbean) have a different diet. Their food does not consist of the same as white British. I just mentioned the Carnaval, because it's a large event. It's basically a large block party.

Back when I used to live in the South of the Netherlands near American army basis, I had American ADOS friends who expected everyone here to walk on wooden shoes (klompen).
 
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Cool that you push back, that is needed. You have been to Europe, Europe is not a country. What countries have you been at? Have you been at Black communities? Brixton is in Southeast London and predominately Black.

You spoke of Dutch women? I don't understand, do you mean you visited the Netherland or did you meet them elsewhere in Europe? But you are right, Dutch have the tendency to be closeted racist, not so much openly and direct
I'm trying to be purposefully vague, but fukk it, we were sent to Amsterdam for (his) work. He was busting his ass working while we were there, we had no time to country hop, but I went to the outdoor market everyday and had learned rudimentary Dutch by the time we left. We were in what appeared to be one of the 'blacker' neighborhoods. I felt very comfortable. We showed love to the Surinamese and they showed love to us. (Arabs showed love too, btw and apropos to nothing.)

I am not sure if they "pause for tea time"?
Which is why I made the parenthetical specification that that was a placeholder for whatever unusual, distinctly British mannerisms they've absorbed.
 
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