HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
You're a psycho. We disagree on the internet, it's not that serious.
Serious: Why wouldn’t a Black American Share More In Common Culturally With A White American over an African?
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You're a psycho. We disagree on the internet, it's not that serious.
Do they still keep that naacp meeting in the same place?
Last I was there it was so many women
We might have met
Do not get curious my sweetie
HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
You'd know if we had, I'm me irl.
You sound like you the curious one.
Stop flirting with me, thanks.
I am not Afro-British, but I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve been to Britain, Southeast London, Brixton. Brixton is a predominantly Black area.Nope. None of that matters, again, when it comes to us.
Meanwhile, tell an Afro-Brit they're not really British and see what happens, and they just got there a few generations ago at most.
Ironically people out of nowhere called me “English man”, random people down the street. I usually have those experiences wherever I go, even in the States, and Egypt I had similar experiences.
To get back on topic, from what I know the Afro-British community is based on two main groups. Those from the Caribbean and later from Africa.
The Caribbean (West Indian descent) have a relationship that goes back hundreds of years, due to colonialism. As is the case with other former colonial powers.
Back when I was younger I used to be in London, and watch Afro-Caribbean tv shows from the UK, while being in Holland.
Most of their shows were based on Black American experiences, and influences.
When American performers came to Europe, it was usually in the UK, and they usually performed for Black audiences. Rarely the came over to the Netherlands, but if so they performed for Afro-Dutch. (At the time only Caribbean descent, and some Cape Verdeans).
Asians, are somewhat spread over the Caribbean, but have maintained their language, culture and norms from their home countries. Whereas Afro-Caribbeans mainly have an African identity mixed with elements from the former colonial structures.
We live side by side with Asians, and have some overlappings. But culturally we have more in tune with other Blacks. These Asian base their economy on their ethnicity, separate from us. We do have contact to some degree, but it’s all elementary. It’s not that deep.
For example, we watch BET, listen to Black American music, my parents had Ebony magazine etc. we purchase the same hair and beauty care products etc. listened to Black American music (as well as local cultural music). Asians don’t do all this. And so there are many more examples I could give.
And when we go deep into the culture we see elements that have even more in common.
The Gullah Geechee speak a pigeon language similar to other Creole languages by African descents. Even in certain dishes there are similarities.
I was in a chat once where they spoke Gullah, and I could follow and understand what they were talking about.
Here is information on comparative linguistic analysis.
Africanisms in Afro-American Language Varieties.
Africanisms in Afro-American Language Varieties
This collection of papers by major scholars of creole and Afro-American linguistics is drawn from research first presented at an International Round Table of...
ugapress.org
S. Gramley: English Pidgins, English Creoles, and English (Nov. 2009) Chapter 9: English Pidgins, English Creoles, and English.
Black Linguistics
Language, Society and Politics in Africa and the AmericasByArnetha Ball, Sinfree Makoni, Geneva Smitherman, Arthur K. Spears, Foreword by Ngugi wa Thiong'o
Black Linguistics | Language, Society and Politics in Africa and the A
Enslavement, forced migration, war and colonization have led to the global dispersal of Black communities and to the fragmentation of common experiences.The
I’m going to end here, because it will become too long winded.
Look at the MOBO awards how it’s organized.
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Roll out the red carpet! The UK’s biggest celebration of Black music and culture, the MOBO Awards in association with MOBOLISE, is back on Wednesday 7 Februa...
www.youtube.com
You’ve been over here and had certain experiences. It’s all a bit more complicated.
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And you're still not White, but in America.
What's your response when you're reminded of that daily in how the powers that run America have now made it abundantly clear they're resevering, preserving and conserving any and everything of value for future White generations only, but not yours or the millions of Mexicans and Guat's pouring across the border in droves.
That's what "conservatism" means to them. Or were you not aware of that fact?
Oh, you have an American passport you say. You have Statehood you believe, huh.
Trust me, that doesn't matter to most Whites.
The majorty no longer pretend anymore they even consider you part of the larger equation and future of America. That's what maga is all about if you're slow at learning.
You see, the immigration problem from Latin America, Muslim nations etc is going to affect Black Americans badly but not how you're thinking with them providing cheap labor and taking jobs.
Sadly soon Black Americans will be getting lumped up in the same category as illegals from Latin America and Asia.
The direction a majority of White Americans are taking doesn't favor you Sir. It never did.
They're drawing a line in the sand between White America and everyone else. And that includes you too.
But do you though brehs, and keep looking for distractions amongst Black immigrants and burying your head in the sand to avoid the truth.
White purity is imported to them. A white etnostate is what they strive for. Whiteness globally feel they are under a threat. As white nationalism grows worldwide. These folk walk around with a superiority complex. A white person can be dumb as fukk, but still feel superior to an educated Black person! The fact we both know this to be true, while living miles and miles away from each other should tell something.And you're still not White, but in America.
What's your response when you're reminded of that daily in how the powers that run America have now made it abundantly clear they're resevering, preserving and conserving any and everything of value for future White generations only, but not yours or the millions of Mexicans and Guat's pouring across the border in droves.
That's what "conservatism" means to them. Or were you not aware of that fact?
Oh, you have an American passport you say. You have Statehood you believe, huh.
Trust me, that doesn't matter to most Whites.
The majorty no longer pretend anymore they even consider you part of the larger equation and future of America. That's what maga is all about if you're slow at learning.
You see, the immigration problem from Latin America, Muslim nations etc is going to affect Black Americans badly but not how you're thinking with them providing cheap labor and taking jobs.
Sadly soon Black Americans will be getting lumped up in the same category as illegals from Latin America and Asia.
The direction a majority of White Americans are taking doesn't favor you Sir. It never did.
They're drawing a line in the sand between White America and everyone else. And that includes you too.
But do you though brehs, and keep looking for distractions amongst Black immigrants and burying your head in the sand to avoid the truth.
These other groups you’ve mentioned have an adjacent position as second class citizens (not quite white) and they gladly take that position in the racial hierarchy (pyramid scheme).
Only a dumb nikka doesn’t see this threat.
When Travon Martin, Tamir Rice etc was shot and killed we as Black people all were upset over here. We had national debates on tv etc. Somw whites over here made fun of it and justified it!
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If you search just a few years back, there are literally 100+ reply threads between this sub and The Root breaking down Africanisms in African American. The claims these folks make are not due to lack of knowledge, I feel you 100% but no need to waste your time on it.I am not Afro-British, but I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve been to Britain, Southeast London, Brixton. Brixton is a predominantly Black area.
Ironically people out of nowhere called me “English man”, random people down the street. I usually have those experiences wherever I go, even in the States, and Egypt I had similar experiences.
To get back on topic, from what I know the Afro-British community is based on two main groups. Those from the Caribbean and later from Africa.
The Caribbean (West Indian descent) have a relationship that goes back hundreds of years, due to colonialism. As is the case with other former colonial powers.
Back when I was younger I used to be in London, and watch Afro-Caribbean tv shows from the UK, while being in Holland.
Most of their shows were based on Black American experiences, and influences.
When American performers came to Europe, it was usually in the UK, and they usually performed for Black audiences. Rarely the came over to the Netherlands, but if so they performed for Afro-Dutch. (At the time only Caribbean descent, and some Cape Verdeans).
Asians, are somewhat spread over the Caribbean, but have maintained their language, culture and norms from their home countries. Whereas Afro-Caribbeans mainly have an African identity mixed with elements from the former colonial structures.
We live side by side with Asians, and have some overlappings. But culturally we have more in tune with other Blacks. These Asian base their economy on their ethnicity, separate from us. We do have contact to some degree, but it’s all elementary. It’s not that deep.
For example, we watch BET, listen to Black American music, my parents had Ebony magazine etc. we purchase the same hair and beauty care products etc. listened to Black American music (as well as local cultural music). Asians don’t do all this. And so there are many more examples I could give.
And when we go deep into the culture we see elements that have even more in common.
The Gullah Geechee speak a pigeon language similar to other Creole languages by African descents. Even in certain dishes there are similarities.
I was in a chat once where they spoke Gullah, and I could follow and understand what they were talking about.
Here is information on comparative linguistic analysis.
Africanisms in Afro-American Language Varieties.
Africanisms in Afro-American Language Varieties
This collection of papers by major scholars of creole and Afro-American linguistics is drawn from research first presented at an International Round Table of...
S. Gramley: English Pidgins, English Creoles, and English (Nov. 2009) Chapter 9: English Pidgins, English Creoles, and English.
Black Linguistics
Language, Society and Politics in Africa and the Americas
ByArnetha Ball, Sinfree Makoni, Geneva Smitherman, Arthur K. Spears, Foreword by Ngugi wa Thiong'o
Black Linguistics | Language, Society and Politics in Africa and the A
Enslavement, forced migration, war and colonization have led to the global dispersal of Black communities and to the fragmentation of common experiences.Thewww.taylorfrancis.com
I’m going to quite, because it will become too long winded.
Look at the MOBO awards how it’s organized.
26th MOBO Awards In Association With MOBOLISE | Hosted by Indiyah & Babatúndé | 2024
Roll out the red carpet! The UK’s biggest celebration of Black music and culture, the MOBO Awards in association with MOBOLISE, is back on Wednesday 7 Februa...
You’ve been over here and had certain experiences. It’s all a bit more complicated.
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Gritsngravy
Superstar
The fact that yall continue to lie on yevtte for whatever reason lets me know yall on bullshyt and never took the time to even understand her talking points
And y’all been doing this shyt for years, why cause she gay, cause she and tone rightfully so called out foreigners speaking for black Americans on political issues , cause they don’t dikk ride celebrities and be calling them out?
This whole shyt has been disingenuous from the beginning, tone and her and ados in general been called cointelpro, Russian robots, republican operatives, democratic operatives, lgbtq operatives, and some moe shyt, I can’t take none of this shyt serious cause after almost a fukking decade I have yet to hear anybody try to counter any of the talking points when it comes to black economics and black politics
Them two done brought good information onto they YouTube platforms and yall and mainstream media have done nothing but lied on them and be agents towards them,( I ain’t forget that bullshyt Tariq did), and all this time if yall really actually listened to them they done nothing but try to get black folks to have a better understanding of the position we in in this country and yall still on here playin fukking dumb running interference
And y’all been doing this shyt for years, why cause she gay, cause she and tone rightfully so called out foreigners speaking for black Americans on political issues , cause they don’t dikk ride celebrities and be calling them out?
This whole shyt has been disingenuous from the beginning, tone and her and ados in general been called cointelpro, Russian robots, republican operatives, democratic operatives, lgbtq operatives, and some moe shyt, I can’t take none of this shyt serious cause after almost a fukking decade I have yet to hear anybody try to counter any of the talking points when it comes to black economics and black politics
Them two done brought good information onto they YouTube platforms and yall and mainstream media have done nothing but lied on them and be agents towards them,( I ain’t forget that bullshyt Tariq did), and all this time if yall really actually listened to them they done nothing but try to get black folks to have a better understanding of the position we in in this country and yall still on here playin fukking dumb running interference
There is truth in what you said, but not all.
How long have you followed Yvette? I know of her since 2015/16.
Why did she attack elders like Dr. Claud Anderson?
The problem is that Russian bots operated from the Ukraine interfere in some of the chat rooms. This is separate from the actual claim and grievances of course.
With that being said. Her political talking points are correct. However, she aligned herself with a man (John Tanton) who had involved with the KKK. This organization doesn’t mind white / European immigrants into America.
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It’s rooted in this history:
“The history of women in the Klan is nonetheless "one of large numbers of highly competent and progressive women, who have shored up racism and countered immigration", Gillett writes.”
A Hidden Chapter: Women of the Klan
Rachel Gillett explains why the role of women in the Ku Klux Klan has so often been ignored.
“Through picnics, lunches, and cross burnings, these white women rallied around racist immigration laws, anti-miscegenation, and segregation.”
The Truth About Women and White Supremacy
Women have always been essential to the movement. To overlook that is to underestimate its reach.
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Since Yvette Carnell was brought into the conversation. When do you expect to receive reparations?Why wouldn't be closer culturally to White Americans? We've only been in the same country for centuries. Have families who were in wars together (albeit treated differently) I'm sorry I'm closer culturally to some White Southerners than I am to some brother in Kenya
I feel people would only do this with Black Americans by the way.
No one would bat an eye if a Black Dominican, Jamaican, Belizean, Brazilian, Puerto Rican, Costo Rican, etc, shared more in common with their countryman regardless of race than they do with someone deep in Africa
Yes, me and Chad in Apartment 3C both have an affinity for Football Sunday, Soul Food/Southern Food, Seafood Boils and Boxing, Baseball and old school American muscle cars.
I'm sorry that I share more in common with him than Gasimba the Hutu brotha from Rwanda.
But that is true for everyone. We all share more in common with our countryman than other people. It only offends yall when it comes to us though.
Are they concerned with Black Americans health?
“Mental Health Among African American Women”
Mental Health Among African American Women
Too often, women of color try to tackle depression and anxiety on their own.
“Addressing Mental Health in the Black Community”
Addressing Mental Health in the Black Community
The Black community suffers from an increased rate of mental health concerns, including anxiety and depression.
www.columbiapsychiatry.org
And what do you consider this commonality with white southerners? Can you specify this?
From what I understand (heard people say) they use the n-word as if it’s something regular. Is that true or false?
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SupaDupaFresh
Superstar
I cannot believe this is a legitimate conversation on a pro-black forum.... I'm done. shyt sickening. This is a haven of Uncle Toms. Nothing more to gain here.
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
assimilation.. 6 pages in and nobody used the term once
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
i'm from Louisiana Mardi Gras is as a super old custom that in the old world they made black slaves lead the floats up and down the streets. Just like they do today, the only difference is nikkas don't have to be chained up leading the procession. Black folks go out there ever year joyfully like damn fools.My culture is Louisiana and we all know Louisiana culture is black/african/creole/native american based
I can't speak for you Negropeans
2 Maccabees 6:7-17
7 And in the day of the king's birth every month they were brought by bitter constraint to eat of the sacrifices; and when the fast of Bacchus was kept, the Jews were compelled to go in procession to Bacchus, carrying ivy.
8 Moreover there went out a decree to the neighbour cities of the heathen, by the suggestion of Ptolemee, against the Jews, that they should observe the same fashions, and be partakers of their sacrifices:
9 And whoso would not conform themselves to the manners of the Gentiles should be put to death. Then might a man have seen the present misery.
So now you know why all these black folks in Louisiana love Mardi Gras, Easter, Christmas, 4th of July. Cuz them crackers told them if they don't observe the same shyt we do you black folks will be put to death
The Thorah / Bible is based on allegories, comparables and symbols. Once you learn how to read the old / original languages you will understand this.