Serious question: Why are atheist's such a$$holes?

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Absolutely. Besides, this whole thread is ad hominem i.e. "God must exist because atheists are a$$holes."

I am an atheist. But if I saw legitimate evidence of a creator (and nature in and of itself is not legitimate evidence, and I've explained why before on this forum), I would abandon my atheism and try to find out as much as I could about the creator.

I would love to believe that humanity has a purpose or that there is some divine being more powerful than death. The thing is I just can't ignore this obstacle to my faith called reality. :manny:
I'm exactly the same way, my atheism is due to evidence, if there was evidence for a god, I would accept it and move toward a belief in that specific deity.
There is literally no evidence for God, just logical fallacies to prove he "exists."
 

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:what: Then how do you believe god exist in the first place and why is he so mysterious lol
How do know he doesn't exist, how do you know YOU actually exist, how can you really trust what you think you know?....because you trust in whatever it is that you think you know, having faith in believing god is real is similar to trust, some things you just can't explain other than a knowing, intuition or whatever you choose to call it. What's the law of attraction?
 

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Aight, Peace and good luck.
I'm sorry, I just want to point out something about your statement, you wrote "peace and good luck", how is luck brought to me, what or whom brings peace/luck is it an unknown entity like god or something else?

I'm asking because you basically dismissed having faith in god but seems to believe in luck.
Here's a quote: "Luck, like a god, is a belief in an unseen force that can be manipulated through certain actions. Luck can be manipulated by avoiding certain markers (for example, number combinations) and seeking others (for example, colors). God can be manipulated by living life in a certain way and through prayer and faith. In both cases, the mechanism that is believed to affect an outcome is unseen. For example, we do not see God’s hand actually working. Instead, we can see only the outcome. A favorable outcome that follows a set pattern of prescribed behavior is seen as evidence of successful manipulation." Source michael Braun
 

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How do know he doesn't exist, how do you know YOU actually exist, how can you really trust what you think you know?....because you trust in whatever it is that you think you know, having faith in believing god is real is similar to trust, some things you just can't explain other than a knowing, intuition or whatever you choose to call it. What's the law of attraction?

I think you are having an understandably difficult time not relying on god for simple matters of logic, reason, and simple laws of probability. Alot of the statements you are making put "god in the gaps" for things you can't explain. Law of attraction? The practice of focusing on good/bad things and that is supposedly what you attract in life. That's not mysterious at all, it's called optimism. If you can see the good in most things, then you will find more good things in your daily life. Luck is not mysterious either, you don't belief in luck. Luck is a mathematical calculation determining probability of positive to negative outcome, the breh wishing you luck is the same as saying "hope have a positive outcome vs the negatives"....in your case when you die let's hope your gamble for heaven comes true.:ehh:
 

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I'm sorry, I just want to point out something about your statement, you wrote "peace and good luck", how is luck brought to me, what or whom brings peace/luck is it an unknown entity like god or something else?

I'm asking because you basically dismissed having faith in god but seems to believe in luck.
Here's a quote: "Luck, like a god, is a belief in an unseen force that can be manipulated through certain actions. Luck can be manipulated by avoiding certain markers (for example, number combinations) and seeking others (for example, colors). God can be manipulated by living life in a certain way and through prayer and faith. In both cases, the mechanism that is believed to affect an outcome is unseen. For example, we do not see God’s hand actually working. Instead, we can see only the outcome. A favorable outcome that follows a set pattern of prescribed behavior is seen as evidence of successful manipulation." Source michael Braun

Don't think too much of it, it's just an expression :manny:
 

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Maybe because they're lives are so horrible? A possible extremely small appetizer for eternal Hellfire?
I hope they become guided to Islam.
Just in case an atheist reads this, If you die upon Islam, you will be in Paradise forever after death rather than eternal Hellfire. There is no terrorism in Islam (just in case someone tries to trick you). I'm trying to help y'all out.
Eternal Paradise or eternal Hellfire are at stake!
The only religion the One True God Allah will accept on the day of Judgment is Islam.
I'm just trying to help y'all.

Quick question. If your particular brand of Islam completely covered the world and it's governments, would you allow a society to have groups of people that wanted to live god free?

What is the penalty of someone leaving Islam to become free thinking?

The people want to know.:ohhh:
 

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How do know he doesn't exist, how do you know YOU actually exist, how can you really trust what you think you know?....because you trust in whatever it is that you think you know, having faith in believing god is real is similar to trust, some things you just can't explain other than a knowing, intuition or whatever you choose to call it. What's the law of attraction?
We dont know if he exist or not but he isn't doing a good job showing us he exist if he does because I have never seen any evidence suggesting he does exist. As far as my existence I have self awareness I know I exist in the world as we know it I can interact with you as im doing right now. If all you have is intuition thats not enough for me im sorry.
 

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I think you are having an understandably difficult time not relying on god for simple matters of logic, reason, and simple laws of probability. Alot of the statements you are making put "god in the gaps" for things you can't explain. Law of attraction? The practice of focusing on good/bad things and that is supposedly what you attract in life. That's not mysterious at all, it's called optimism. If you can see the good in most things, then you will find more good things in your daily life. Luck is not mysterious either, you don't belief in luck. Luck is a mathematical calculation determining probability of positive to negative outcome, the breh wishing you luck is the same as saying "hope have a positive outcome vs the negatives"....in your case when you die let's hope your gamble for heaven comes true.:ehh:
Your Analysis is very flawed. I do not place god in gaps that's unexplainable, I can ask a million questions and get a million answers but at the end of the day all one can do is go on faith or your beliefs. Who's to decide the positive outcome god or coincidence? You really simplified this discussion, but it's much deeper than that. Lol also luck is not a "mathematical calculation" and your def for law of attraction is wrong/off, it isn't synonymous to optimism either. Law of attraction is like attracts like, thinking/feeling be it negative or positive what you want/don't want and attracting that experience to your life.
I didn't say anything about me personally going to heaven, I did give an example of others believing. Cool you don't believe in god but it's not my job to persuade you any different. I'm just offering my opinion.
 
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