serious discussion: Drake HAS to be an industry plant, no?

[duckbutta]

Well this happens in hip hop because it's the only genre of music that you can buy your way into...

The Jewish people at the top...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

The black figureheads at the record labels...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

The hip hop producers...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

The ghostwriters...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

The actual rappers...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

And then...if you pay enough and you actually blow up like Drake did...shyt they don't got to "take" your money...cause they eating off of propping up the image they created for you...so now they got to keep creating it rather they want to or not...rather you keep paying them the same or not, because that is how they keep getting them checks...

I mean look at the hoops Quentin Miller is jumping through to be low key...this dude could use this as the ultimate jumping off point...could be some "The Drake in the Iron Aubrey" shyt...but is he doing that..nope...he out here trying to be super low key so he can keep making reference tracks and keep getting checks from Drake camp...

Hip Hop is the only genre of music that continuously sells itself out to anyone by the way...can anyone name the last industry plant country singer...or rock singer?

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

I thought about it... But theres a lot of dudes I know personally that got fukked over by these dudes or blackballed and I dont think itll help there careers if their business is all out there. Maybe when this whole ghost writing fiasco dies down ill make a thread detailing everything I know.

Mostly its all about OVO management recognizing Toronto talent, asking for more unreleased music, then black balling when the dudes ask for industry connects or exposure connects.

it will help them because it will shed light on their talent and make more people want to check them out. you think if you say nothing that something will happen for them? nobody gave a shyt about quentin miller before people exposed the truth. now breh has a little shine that he probably never would have had.

 

[Broke Wave]

it will help them because it will shed light on their talent and make more people want to check them out. you think if you say nothing that something will happen for them? nobody gave a shyt about quentin miller before people exposed the truth. now breh has a little shine that he probably never would have had.

Its mostly about respecting their wishes.. I know for a fact they wouldnt want me throwing their name in with ovo in a negative light... They probably still think theyre gonna get something from them but its only my opinion that they never will.

 

[Geek Nasty]

Well this happens in hip hop because it's the only genre of music that you can buy your way into...

The Jewish people at the top...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

The black figureheads at the record labels...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

The hip hop producers...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

The ghostwriters...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

The actual rappers...they will take your money no matter your background if you pay enough...

And then...if you pay enough and you actually blow up like Drake did...shyt they don't got to "take" your money...cause they eating off of propping up the image they created for you...so now they got to keep creating it rather they want to or not...rather you keep paying them the same or not, because that is how they keep getting them checks...

I mean look at the hoops Quentin Miller is jumping through to be low key...this dude could use this as the ultimate jumping off point...could be some "The Drake in the Iron Aubrey" shyt...but is he doing that..nope...he out here trying to be super low key so he can keep making reference tracks and keep getting checks from Drake camp...

Hip Hop is the only genre of music that continuously sells itself out to anyone by the way...can anyone name the last industry plant country singer...or rock singer?

You got it backwards. Hip hop is becoming just like EVERY OTHER GENRE. Country a bunch of skinny models singing songs some team wrote for them. Katy Perry is a soft porn actress who lip syncs to producer's music. Everything is crafted for image. People want the illusion. Look at how much the suburban hip hop fan "set" shyts on Rick Ross because he's fat (i.e. doesn't look like a shirtless hip hop thug warrior god from the 90s). Only natural that the same forces would take over hip hop that have been running the music industry for 80 years.

 

[trillanova]

this is an obvious L for the culture of hip hop. we've blatantly seen the direct higher up connections he has come out in full force to save his reputation from being completely demolished. there is apart of me that really is furious. it's a industry plant thing. it's an oppresion thing. it's favoritism. it's corporate greed. it's biting. there's so many angles to this that would infuriate a person who literally grew up in the culture.

i'm watching something that was black turn white and lose it's soul. i can clearly see how wrong this is while just about everyone else is cosigning it because they either don't want to be on the wrong side or just want to go along with what's cool....or you're just not going to say anything because you don't want to ruffle any feathers. the whole entire point of hip hop has been to ruffle feathers. hip hop has been calling out phonies, fakes and imitators since it's inception. faking and biting whether consensual or not is a cardinal sin in this game and right before my eyes i'm watching it become celebrated.

this one event opens the floodgates for a different type of artist to enter the scene. one that doesn't have to prove themselves with the skill of a real mc. this is the artist they wanted all along but couldn't push because at one time the public wouldn't stand for it. a hip hop artist/rapper that's using someone elses lines? get the fukk out of here. but now....within a weeks time, it's all good. this is okay....kids are rooting for this. adults are rooting for this. everything hip hop stood for is reversed because one guy had all the money and power backing him. hip hop started out as an authentic means to communicate a narrative of the ghetto when there were no suits of any kind paying attention. it was the voice of the mc telling his or her own truth.

i can't say i haven't known for a long time that hip hop has been controlled by money but this is different. this is the reversal of everything that it's about. you have a half black and white jew from upper suburbia using the platform to assert himself to the top with his television connections, just like a white kid who's father works at a major corporation. he can use daddy's position for an internship and later take over the company in a few short years without any real work put in. then you have meek....a clear child and product of the ghetto...grew up in the meanest streets in philly and well known in the battle scene. he grinded his way out. the streets spoke for him when ross came to philly. the streets told ross that he had to see about this kid meek....not connections,

now meek is the fraud and drake is the hero. drake is the creative genius and meek is the loud mouthed goon. the soft spoken Canadian who manages to get a 20 million deal with apple, host the espys and have his image plastered on billboards with nas biggie and rakim is now the face of the culture. yet he has others writing for him....this shyt just blows my mind. i'm witnessing a sad day in hip hop history but i'm just going to keep it moving. like someone said in another thread....hip hop belongs to the suits now. they knew what they were doing from day 1 with drake.

The Truth.



I bump Drake's shyt from time to time. He has a couple of joints I really liked, even on IYRTITL....but now it feels like a bad mistake. Like a bad bytch that you enjoyed fukkin' around with and now she's pregnant with your seed and you're stuck with her ratchet ass for life.

 

[Nomadum]

I don't think drake is a "plant". I believe in what 50 cent said though, there is definitely people putting major paper behind him.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

The Truth.



I bump Drake's shyt from time to time. He has a couple of joints I really liked, even on IYRTITL....but now it feels like a bad mistake. Like a bad bytch that you enjoyed fukkin' around with and now she's pregnant with your seed and you're stuck with her ratchet ass for life.

 

[GeeEffKay]

He is nothing more than an industry plant pop rap artist

 

[ISO]

Drake was pushed on people from the beginning


"Wayne told me 'don't play me that shyt no more'"
"I slid Drake some music he wasn't supposed to have at the time"


= Plant

Wayne warmed up real quick once he heard Replacement Girl and Brand New...

I don't think you know what an industry plant is...

 

[Big Boss]

He did. He definitely did

2006 he drops a local mixtape. A year later he drops comeback season with features from prominent artists.

2009 he drops So Far Gone and it blows up like nothing you've ever seen before. 4-5 months after he drops his mixtape he's shooting sprite commercials. Mixtape gets nom's for a Grammy.

Now, he gets exposed and multiple industries and insert themselves into Hip Hop drama to save him.

Dude makes mysoginistic content in a generation where feminists are flat out destroying people and no one says anything.

He's the ambassador of a family friendly league when his music is about drugs, sex, guns and violence.

Multiple endorsements despite the content of his music.

This hasn't happened before.

 

[Thizzlam]

I never thought any rapper would be as detrimental to mainstream rap as 50 Cent was.

And here comes Drake and he is 1,000% worse!

Fukk that fakkit Drake.

 

[Big Boss]

Dawg. Even 50 back in 09 was talking about it



"They're spending money"

"They're making the public think it's just happening"

"it's not organic"

 

[Big Boss]

this is an obvious L for the culture of hip hop. we've blatantly seen the direct higher up connections he has come out in full force to save his reputation from being completely demolished. there is apart of me that really is furious. it's a industry plant thing. it's an oppresion thing. it's favoritism. it's corporate greed. it's biting. there's so many angles to this that would infuriate a person who literally grew up in the culture.

i'm watching something that was black turn white and lose it's soul. i can clearly see how wrong this is while just about everyone else is cosigning it because they either don't want to be on the wrong side or just want to go along with what's cool....or you're just not going to say anything because you don't want to ruffle any feathers. the whole entire point of hip hop has been to ruffle feathers. hip hop has been calling out phonies, fakes and imitators since it's inception. faking and biting whether consensual or not is a cardinal sin in this game and right before my eyes i'm watching it become celebrated.

this one event opens the floodgates for a different type of artist to enter the scene. one that doesn't have to prove themselves with the skill of a real mc. this is the artist they wanted all along but couldn't push because at one time the public wouldn't stand for it. a hip hop artist/rapper that's using someone elses lines? get the fukk out of here. but now....within a weeks time, it's all good. this is okay....kids are rooting for this. adults are rooting for this. everything hip hop stood for is reversed because one guy had all the money and power backing him. hip hop started out as an authentic means to communicate a narrative of the ghetto when there were no suits of any kind paying attention. it was the voice of the mc telling his or her own truth.

i can't say i haven't known for a long time that hip hop has been controlled by money but this is different. this is the reversal of everything that it's about. you have a half black and white jew from upper suburbia using the platform to assert himself to the top with his television connections, just like a white kid who's father works at a major corporation. he can use daddy's position for an internship and later take over the company in a few short years without any real work put in. then you have meek....a clear child and product of the ghetto...grew up in the meanest streets in philly and well known in the battle scene. he grinded his way out. the streets spoke for him when ross came to philly. the streets told ross that he had to see about this kid meek....not connections,

now meek is the fraud and drake is the hero. drake is the creative genius and meek is the loud mouthed goon. the soft spoken Canadian who manages to get a 20 million deal with apple, host the espys and have his image plastered on billboards with nas biggie and rakim is now the face of the culture. yet he has others writing for him....this shyt just blows my mind. i'm witnessing a sad day in hip hop history but i'm just going to keep it moving. like someone said in another thread....hip hop belongs to the suits now. they knew what they were doing from day 1 with drake.

its over

 

[onelastdeath]

Wayne warmed up real quick once he heard Replacement Girl and Brand New...

I don't think you know what an industry plant is...

If drake isn't a IP then there's no such thing as a IP

 

[TenChambers]

Its mostly about respecting their wishes.. I know for a fact they wouldnt want me throwing their name in with ovo in a negative light... They probably still think theyre gonna get something from them but its only my opinion that they never will.

For sharing what you can breh and for not blowing up your people's situations out of respect. I've heard shyt similar to this out here from people trying to get on with Meek and Dreamchasers. The game is so dirty man that's why I just listen to the music and don't get deep into it. If it's this shady on the lower levels imagine what's it's like the higher up you go.