serious discussion: Drake HAS to be an industry plant, no?

[duckbutta]

You got it backwards. Hip hop is becoming just like EVERY OTHER GENRE. Country a bunch of skinny models singing songs some team wrote for them. Katy Perry is a soft porn actress who lip syncs to producer's music. Everything is crafted for image. People want the illusion. Look at how much the suburban hip hop fan "set" shyts on Rick Ross because he's fat (i.e. doesn't look like a shirtless hip hop thug warrior god from the 90s). Only natural that the same forces would take over hip hop that have been running the music industry for 80 years.

Country is one of the few industries where it is impossible to have an "industry" plant for no other reason than the fans won't stand for it. You can be a legit country singer and if you piss the fans off your career can end. Dixie chicks were at the top of the country charts, popped shyt about the iraq war and bush...poof, disappeared literally overnight and when was the last time you even heard their name?

Well if we getting in who to blame for the current state of hip hop then I am pointing to all of the black people involved in hip hop in the early days who either didn't A. see that it was generating huge amounts of revenue and not put themselves in a position to monetize and control it, or B. the black people who did do this but were easily persuaded to give up some or all of their authority and control to white people...

Hip Hop is a thing that was black created and should have been black owned...none of these white execs would be here today if Russel Simmons and others didn't let them stick their foot in the door...Lyer Cohen can't even exist without Russel Simmons getting hoodwinked by him first...

Ross albums tend to hoover around gold and his tours tend to make quite a bit of money so regardless of what fans say about them and him, somebody is consistenly buying his music and going to his shows and have been his entire music career...

Katy Perry...well...you got a point there...

 

[Big Boss]

 

[rapbeats]

Dawg. Even 50 back in 09 was talking about it



"They're spending money"

"They're making the public think it's just happening"

"it's not organic"

I told yall didnt I didnt I?

Check my post from 2012 http://www.thecoli.com/posts/1940997/

Yall lucky i cant pull up my old Sohh archive posts. I told you way back then what it was. but Nooooo, yall wouldnt listen. i've always admitted i liked that he had his own style/vibe so to speak. aside from that. i never once got off the fact dude was most likely a true to life Industry plant. NO ONE. i mean NO ONE has ever blown up that fast off of a little mixtape. NO ONE. and dont tell us that mixtape was the greatest mixtape of all time. it wasnt. it was cool for what it was. and thats about all it was.
When that kind of stuff happens. you know there are some really powerful people behind it. and that aint drake's fault. so this aint hate his way. this is the fault of some industry big wigs for pushing dude on us like that.

 

[rapbeats]

Straight Blasphemy

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

the irony of drake looking like he's performing a seance

 

[The_Sheff]

I know it hurts to hear but a lot of us just don't care who writes the songs, we just want something that sounds good. Meek may write all his shyt but to me it's still yelling nonsense. It doesn't sound good to me.

I don't care about the process, the journey, authenticity, or whatever you want to call it, i only care for the end product. If them behind the scene dudes aren't good enough to sing the song then i have no problem with Drake, Kanye, or anyone else singing it.

 

[rapbeats]

i know i already replied to this but looking at it some more pisses me off even more. this is straight up blasphemy people. yall letting this slide like its nothing?

Imagine them standing some Planted dude next to Malcom and Martin.. this is exactly what that is.

There is nothing about drake's rapping ability that says he's a top 5 MCee dead or alive. NOTHING. and thats even if he wrote every single lyric(we know that aint the case now).

Why are they going so hard for ole boy? i mean if i was EM i would be pissed. If i was Jay, i would be heated.

dont care if those guys were not sprite guys. its the principle.

Yall lucky i'm to old to be all up on a billboard. cause thats the kind of stuff some nucca needs to Tag "SPIT" over...(old heads get the reference).

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Drake was pushed on people from the beginning


"Wayne told me 'don't play me that shyt no more'"
"I slid Drake some music he wasn't supposed to have at the time"


= Plant

Deserves more daps

 

[ISO]

If drake isn't a IP then there's no such thing as a IP

I already said he was among other artists at the top...

The reasons dude is giving like J Dilla beat on a mixtape aren't reasons why...

Industry plant is a corny ass term I could give a fukk and still bump the music as long as it's good.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

i know i already replied to this but looking at it some more pisses me off even more. this is straight up blasphemy people. yall letting this slide like its nothing?

Imagine them standing some Planted dude next to Malcom and Martin.. this is exactly what that is.

There is nothing about drake's rapping ability that says he's a top 5 MCee dead or alive. NOTHING. and thats even if he wrote every single lyric(we know that aint the case now).

Why are they going so hard for ole boy? i mean if i was EM i would be pissed. If i was Jay, i would be heated.

dont care if those guys were not sprite guys. its the principle.

Yall lucky i'm to old to be all up on a billboard. cause thats the kind of stuff some nucca needs to Tag "SPIT" over...(old heads get the reference).

it's the equivalent of creflo dollar standing next to martin luther king, malcom x and marcus garvey

 

[Fresh]

I always thought he was a plant

and ghost writing becoming so ACCEPTABLE nowadays

God needs to step in

 

[Northern Son]

The GOAT plant.

 

[Mac Casper]

Biggest industry plant since The Beatles

 

[3:30]

hes an obvious plant. most times and drake being a prime example, his status as an actor and whatever hollywood ties he has makes it
easier for him to get high status music connects. high circle reaches out to higher circle and so forth. like you can find someone in your own town
prob better than drake but who would know. yeah the internet, but who would care?

 

[RAW_SPK]

this is an obvious L for the culture of hip hop. we've blatantly seen the direct higher up connections he has come out in full force to save his reputation from being completely demolished. there is apart of me that really is furious. it's a industry plant thing. it's an oppresion thing. it's favoritism. it's corporate greed. it's biting. there's so many angles to this that would infuriate a person who literally grew up in the culture.

i'm watching something that was black turn white and lose it's soul. i can clearly see how wrong this is while just about everyone else is cosigning it because they either don't want to be on the wrong side or just want to go along with what's cool....or you're just not going to say anything because you don't want to ruffle any feathers. the whole entire point of hip hop has been to ruffle feathers. hip hop has been calling out phonies, fakes and imitators since it's inception. faking and biting whether consensual or not is a cardinal sin in this game and right before my eyes i'm watching it become celebrated.

this one event opens the floodgates for a different type of artist to enter the scene. one that doesn't have to prove themselves with the skill of a real mc. this is the artist they wanted all along but couldn't push because at one time the public wouldn't stand for it. a hip hop artist/rapper that's using someone elses lines? get the fukk out of here. but now....within a weeks time, it's all good. this is okay....kids are rooting for this. adults are rooting for this. everything hip hop stood for is reversed because one guy had all the money and power backing him. hip hop started out as an authentic means to communicate a narrative of the ghetto when there were no suits of any kind paying attention. it was the voice of the mc telling his or her own truth.

i can't say i haven't known for a long time that hip hop has been controlled by money but this is different. this is the reversal of everything that it's about. you have a half black and white jew from upper suburbia using the platform to assert himself to the top with his television connections, just like a white kid who's father works at a major corporation. he can use daddy's position for an internship and later take over the company in a few short years without any real work put in. then you have meek....a clear child and product of the ghetto...grew up in the meanest streets in philly and well known in the battle scene. he grinded his way out. the streets spoke for him when ross came to philly. the streets told ross that he had to see about this kid meek....not connections,

now meek is the fraud and drake is the hero. drake is the creative genius and meek is the loud mouthed goon. the soft spoken Canadian who manages to get a 20 million deal with apple, host the espys and have his image plastered on billboards with nas biggie and rakim is now the face of the culture. yet he has others writing for him....this shyt just blows my mind. i'm witnessing a sad day in hip hop history but i'm just going to keep it moving. like someone said in another thread....hip hop belongs to the suits now. they knew what they were doing from day 1 with drake.

you truly articulated my thoughts on the matter perfectly. hold this rep right quick