Seattle agrees to raise minimum wage to $15

[GetInTheTruck]

This is the most disgusting thing I've read in a while

So the only reason corporations hire minorities is because they're cheap? That's exactly what you're insinuating dog... cmon.

I'm being realistic. Forcing these businesses to pay their employees 15 an hour is going to make them highly selective...and let's just face it race is going to be a factor.

Remember, 15 an hour is going to attract a whole bunch of people who might not have otherwise considered a minimum wage job....

 

[Broke Wave]

I'm being realistic. Forcing these businesses to pay their employees 15 an hour is going to make them highly selective...and let's just face it race is going to be a factor.

Remember, 15 an hour is going to attract a whole bunch of people who might not have otherwise considered a minimum wage job....

So low wages allow for racial unity because it doesn't matter whether or not the person is qualified anyway it's just so low. Maybe we should eliminate the minimum wage so that all these ******s can be paid their worth.

Dawg, you are a despicable muthafukka, don't even quote me and back track.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Beacuse a 10 to 15 jump is not fukking pennies dude.

But you said--you know what? Never mind.

 

[tmonster]

But you said--you know what? Never mind.

 

[tmonster]

So low wages allow for racial unity because it doesn't matter whether or not the person is qualified anyway it's just so low. Maybe we should eliminate the minimum wage so that all these ******s can be paid their worth.

Dawg, you are a despicable muthafukka, don't even quote me and back track.

.....................:zfg:

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

HOW WILL SEATTLE EVER SURVIVE THE GREAT WAGE INCREASE OF 2014? CITY IS GONNA BE MADMAX STATUS IN A FEW MONTHS

 

[tmonster]

HOW WILL SEATTLE EVER SURVIVE THE GREAT WAGE INCREASE OF 2014? CITY IS GONNA BE MADMAX STATUS IN A FEW MONTHS

next week

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

next week

its happening sooner than I ever imagined I hope our government is ready to send troops into seattle after everyone loses their jobs and businesses raise prices astronomically.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

So low wages allow for racial unity because it doesn't matter whether or not the person is qualified anyway it's just so low. Maybe we should eliminate the minimum wage so that all these ******s can be paid their worth.

Dawg, you are a despicable muthafukka, don't even quote me and back track.

I don't care what color you are No minimum wage job is worth 15 an hour.

And you from Canada anyway, this shyt doesn't even concern you. Mind your business.

 

[A Real Human Bean]

Do you guys even know how it's going to be phased in for the small businesses you're so worried about? It's not just going to be immediately upped to $15.

The new pay floor will phase in at different speeds for businesses of different sizes, but all employers will have to meet the $15 minimum wage by the end of the decade. Businesses with more than 500 employees nationwide will have a three-year phase-in period, while smaller employers get five years to ratchet up their payscales.

So those small businesses companies you guys are so deeply, deeply, concerned about are going to have ample time to figure out how to deal with the rise in costs.

Also:

There are 102,000 workers in Seattle currently earning less than $15 an hour. Raising those people’s wages will put about half a billion extra dollars of spending money into Seattle workers’ pockets. As SEIU 775 president and coalition co-chair David Rolf said in a statement Thursday, the deal “will pump nearly $500 million into Washington’s economy, proving that a higher minimum wage fuels business and job growth.”

Can't wait.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Do you guys even know how it's going to be phased in for the small businesses you're so worried about? It's not just going to be immediately upped to $15.



So those small businesses companies you guys are so deeply, deeply, concerned about are going to have ample time to figure out how to deal with the rise in costs.

Also:



Can't wait.

Do u know what SEIU stands for?

Here's a hint... SEIU will directly benefit greatly from these wage increases.

And yea, small businesses might figure out the best way to deal with the costs.... is to shut down... or hire illegal immigrants. Just as the lawmakers intended

 

[Type Username Here]

Do u know what SEIU stands for?

Here's a hint... SEIU will directly benefit greatly from these wage increases.

And yea, small businesses might figure out the best way to deal with the costs.... is to shut down... or hire illegal immigrants. Just as the lawmakers intended

Why should human existence revolve around businesses who only work on greed?

If they can't adapt they don't deserve to exist.

The same God Damn argument for 200 years from you cats.

"But business X won't survive" as if that holds some objective precedence over the entire course of human affairs.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Why should human existence revolve around businesses who only work on greed?

If they can't adapt they don't deserve to exist.

The same God Damn argument for 200 years from you cats.

"But business X won't survive" as if that holds some objective precedence over the entire course of human affairs.

A business owner looking to earn a profit is no different than a worker looking to be paid a fair rate for their labor. You can't have one without the other. I.e. if laws change to where a business owner can't make a profit, they will close the company down, and everyone who works for them will be out of a job. So approaching the minimum wage issue from a "fukk the owners" POV is a pretty fukking stupid and short sighted approach. Everyone involved has to have a seat at the negotiating table.

I agree that a lot of times pro business groups use the "survival" thing as a red herring but they wouldn't be able to if not for the basic point that an unprofitable business = a non existant business. And for small business owners, who are usually working on pretty narrow margins in the first place, a huge hike in the cost of labor can take them into that unprofitable realm. So I'm cool with talking about minimum wage but not if its basically to spite business owners. That doesn't make any sense.

 

[Type Username Here]

A business owner looking to earn a profit is no different than a worker looking to be paid a fair rate for their labor.

Very much different. In most cases, the labor actually labors. Owners most of the time don't. In small businesses, the owners might labor in some of the cases but not 100%. When you're talking about larger companies, at times the owner is simply handed the position by birth right or inclusion in a social circle. There's no laboring on their part. We get sold this myth as the worker but it's hardly true.

You can't have one without the other. I.e. if laws change to where a business owner can't make a profit, they will close the company down, and everyone who works for them will be out of a job.

Businesses can exist where the entire labor force are the owners. Do you understand this concept? Also, human societies can exist where businesses are simply a vessel for production of products and opportunities for labor without the concept of profit. It's hard to imagine this because we get told since birth that the way we currently do things is the only right way.

So approaching the minimum wage issue from a "fukk the owners" POV is a pretty fukking stupid and short sighted approach. Everyone involved has to have a seat at the negotiating table.

How we try to make the labor the owners as much as possible. If a capitalist business owner is simply getting into a business for greed, and he can't survive because the government has to force him to pay a fair wage (or not use slaves, or not use child labor, or not work someone to death, etc) than so be it.

 

[Type Username Here]

The indoctrination of economics is probably the most powerful form of indoctrination that exists on this planet. Even more so than religion. No one questions it. When people do question it, it's always within the confines of Economics itself which automatically makes it a biased conversation.

You would swear we're speaking about the theory of gravity or the speed of light in a vacuum