SD Spoilers; Smarks ain't gon like this.....

[AquaCityBoy]

You couldn't have had them beat Team Hell No before they broke up? Or have had them beat the Rhodes Scholars? Both teams who are not the champions, but have been fixtures in the title scene for the past 10 months.

But if they beat Team Hell No, wouldn't that just be them jobbing out the champions again?

And let's be honest--Team Rhodes Scholars are not THAT credible. After they failed to get the tag titles in January, they broke up briefly, awkwardly reformed, and have floundering around with the rest of them.

You have credible teams right here, but you have them beat jobbers for the shot instead (nothing wrong with beating jobbers to build some credibility, but not for a title shot)? That's dumb and short sighted, especially considering the fact that they've been wanting to push the Usos for a while.

Hey, I admit this is not the best way the could have handled this. They had the perfect opportunity to build up the division when Team Hell No first won it and they had that large tag tournament for the number one contendership.
For whatever reason they decided not to go further with that, but at this point, I feel like this is not a bad direction for them to go in.

Ignoring the very prominent possibility that this could be just a flash in the pan and that they'll be right back to jobbing out within 3 months (which would make them beating the Shield incredibly stupid)...

That's a possibility, but we all know how WWE works. The Shield may not even be around in three months (three just being an arbitrary number). So I don't see how that's really a big deal. Now if they lose the title shot, then IMMEDIATELY go back to jobbing, I'd agree wholeheartedly.

How in the fukk is the bolded stupid? Isn't this how big matches against prominent threats have been built for years (Case in point: the nWo and Sting; Hogan and Warrior)? You build an equal threat, then build a strong division around that feud and its fallout, that seems like the EASIEST and most logical way to solve this conundrum to me. Hot shotting is what is counterproductive and what solves nothing, which is what they're doing with the Usos right now.

When I said that, I was thinking along the lines of either them forming a team of two singles competitors to take them on, which is the very thing the tag division is largely criticized for, or they introduce some new team, presumably from NXT. To me, the latter is ridiculous. The only team to take out a team of guys from NXT... is another group of guys from NXT? While that would make sense because they'd presumably be more familiar with their styles, but that would really make the rest of the roster look really weak if they couldn't take out one of the most dominant groups, only for some newbies to do it with ease, especially at this stage of The Shield's story.

 

[TrueEpic08]

The PPV isn't until the 14th they need to fill time and build a storyline, can't have the Shield beating them for 2-3 weeks and more than likely go over then too.

And you can't do this without beating the Shield because of what now?

This is the problem with pretty much every booker that's not named Jado and Gedo at this point. All they know is this nonsensical parity bullshyt that in 90-95% of the time, does not add heat to a feud and brings the challengers up a level, but actually brings the champions DOWN a level.

I mean, we just saw the champions lose on free TV, you've basically removed half the reason to see the match on PPV. What sense does that make? Does Georges St. Pierre job on Fuel before he defends his title on PPV? Or does he beat fukkers and allow the draw to seeing his fights be "Who can beat this amazing fighter?"

 

[Brad Piff]

Reserving judgement from the shield L til I see exactly how it goes down on tv

 

[Grifter]

And you can't do this without beating the Shield because of what now?

This is the problem with pretty much every booker that's not named Jado and Gedo at this point. All they know is this nonsensical parity bullshyt that in 90-95% of the time, does not add heat to a feud and brings the challengers up a level, but actually brings the champions DOWN a level.

I mean, we just saw the champions lose on free TV, you've basically removed half the reason to see the match on PPV. What sense does that make? Does Georges St. Pierre job on Fuel before he defends his title on PPV? Or does he beat fukkers and allow the draw to seeing his fights be "Who can beat this amazing fighter?"

no one thinks and probably believes the Usos will get the titles but to the marks it gives them a chance. The whole champs losing on TV is moot since its happened forever, Cena and HHH are the 2 that never like to lose on TV.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Weren't people in here complaining about Sheamus not jobbing to the ultra heatless Sandow and Rhodes, and he is like 5x as over as the Shield, but all of a sudden the Usos and Christian getting a victory over those three is a travesty. Give me a break. The Shield has had their time; they came, they saw, they conquered. And now they bored. They have no backstory, no motivation, no angle, they're just there. Let the Usos eat a little bit off this. You all always talk about pushing new talent well here you go. Oh wait, my bad, "pushing new talent" just means going over Cena for your own perverse entertainment.

 

[TrueEpic08]

But if they beat Team Hell No, wouldn't that just be them jobbing out the champions again?

And let's be honest--Team Rhodes Scholars are not THAT credible. After they failed to get the tag titles in January, they broke up briefly, awkwardly reformed, and have floundering around with the rest of them.

Bryan and Kane haven't been champions since Extreme Rules. You could have had the Usos beat them for the shot after they lost the belts.

And the Rhodes Scholars were the only other team I could think of (itself a problematic concern).

Hey, I admit this is not the best way the could have handled this. They had the perfect opportunity to build up the division when Team Hell No first won it and they had that large tag tournament for the number one contendership.
For whatever reason they decided not to go further with that, but at this point, I feel like this is not a bad direction for them to go in.

And this is why a rant and rave about a lack of foresight. Aren't they supposed to be potentially building to a Shield/Brothers of Destruction match at SummerSlam? And they're losing to a midcard for life guy and jobbers in unpromoted matches? Come on, build the division at least so the Shield won't have to jump from jobber wasteland to THAT.

That's a possibility, but we all know how WWE works. The Shield may not even be around in three months (three just being an arbitrary number). So I don't see how that's really a big deal. Now if they lose the title shot, then IMMEDIATELY go back to jobbing, I'd agree wholeheartedly.

It's a HUGE deal in the big picture sense, since it shows that they've completely forgotten how to book to build and sustain guys. The Shield can still be used for big matches, but everything they do a meaningless job, a little bit of their credibility erodes. Should they just kill everybody and go undefeated? Not necessarily. But WWE should be more careful in picking when they'll lose, especially if they're going to be used for a prominent match down the line.

When I said that, I was thinking along the lines of either them forming a team of two singles competitors to take them on, which is the very thing the tag division is largely criticized for, or they introduce some new team, presumably from NXT. To me, the latter is ridiculous. The only team to take out a team of guys from NXT... is another group of guys from NXT? While that would make sense because they'd presumably be more familiar with their styles, but that would really make the rest of the roster look really weak if they couldn't take out one of the most dominant groups, only for some newbies to do it with ease, especially at this stage of The Shield's story.[/FONT]

I agree with this.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

They could have put Jericho and Ryback in that match instead of a singles bout nobody wants to see

 

[DANJ!]

Good lord... some of y'all too uptight to have ever been wrestling fans. How did y'all get this far?

It was probably just booked as an UPSET. It's not gonna hurt the team that lost, and it helps the team that won. It doesn't mean the Shield is being buried. It doesn't mean The Shield is being made to look weak. It's an upset surprise victory- no more, no less.

Remember months ago when nikkas wanted the Shield on TV every week wrestling random matches, instead of beating the shyt out of everybody on the roster and wrestling teams comprised of top stars? Well, you got it. Now y'all saying they're being booked badly cause they lost a match on Smackdown to a team no one prob. thought was going over.

It really ain't that deep.

 

[Riley Escobar]

some nikkas in here would have been furious back in the day

"how the fukk are WWF putting that JOBBER 1-2-3 Kid over an ESTABLISHED main eventer like Razor Ramon?"

 

[DaylitoJames]

Lets go back to the real issue... what's sup with this struggle Money In The Bank Match for the World Heavyweight Title? All heels Coke Boy? R-Truth or Zack Ryder busy? If this not the opening match of the ppv then I would be surprised.

 

[DANJ!]

Lets go back to the real issue... what's sup with this struggle Money In The Bank Match for the World Heavyweight Title? All heels Coke Boy? R-Truth or Zack Ryder busy? If this not the opening match of the ppv then I would be surprised.

I got a prediction... might not happen, but it's possible...

That Jericho/Ryback is probably for the 8th spot in the WWE title MITB match... Ryback wins and gets a spot in the match.

Then, one of the heels in the WHC match gets attacked by Jericho or somethin'... Jericho enters in his place.

They've done stuff like that on PPV before, so that's why I say somethin like that could be what happens here.

I can't imagine they'd put on a match with that many people and not one of them to cheer for.

 

[DaylitoJames]

I got a prediction... might not happen, but it's possible...

That Jericho/Ryback is probably for the 8th spot in the WWE title MITB match... Ryback wins and gets a spot in the match.

Then, one of the heels in the WHC match gets attacked by Jericho or somethin'... Jericho enters in his place.

They've done stuff like that on PPV before, so that's why I say somethin like that could be what happens here.

I can't imagine they'd put on a match with that many people and not one of them to cheer for.

That makes sense especially they be having Jericho like "I need to win this match... I founded this motherfukker!" skeez every time this match happens.

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

Weren't people in here complaining about Sheamus not jobbing to the ultra heatless Sandow and Rhodes, and he is like 5x as over as the Shield, but all of a sudden the Usos and Christian getting a victory over those three is a travesty. Give me a break. The Shield has had their time; they came, they saw, they conquered. And now they bored. They have no backstory, no motivation, no angle, they're just there. Let the Usos eat a little bit off this. You all always talk about pushing new talent well here you go. Oh wait, my bad, "pushing new talent" just means going over Cena for your own perverse entertainment.

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[Un-AmericanDreamer]

Atleast the usos are black(kinda)

 

[Mr.Black]

ziggler doing too damn much, nikka fueding with jericho, del rio and now the bray wyatt family??

i would've had them cost the shield that match against the usos and christian