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I get that. But they need to make The Usos look legitimate as #1 contenders, and presumably Christian will get a US title opportunity. This is a GOOD thing. It makes the US title meaningful, and it legitimizes the tag division A LOT.



Would you rather they just squash The Usos and bury the already dying tag division even more?

Think big picture here, guys...

And the whole tag division is full of jobbers, so that point is meaningless.

So...jobbing out the US and Tag Champs in a 6 man tag with no build to set up matches that (probably) have foregone conclusions makes belts that are usually on the waists of guys who job a lot for no reason look important.

Both belt scenes suck tremendously because apparently they can't book any other way than this. Here's a suggestion: Have the Usos compete in an ACTUAL tag division instead of a makeshift clusterfukk made up of thrown together teams that occasionally gets focus and make their way up the ranks by beating people. Let the Shield have their one loss, and have them keep beating people and looking dominant. Then, when the Usos have properly built enough cred for themselves by beating people in the division, THEN have them face the champs to see which one of the teams that don't lose often will lose in a title match. Do the same for Christian, except replace "ACTUAL tag division" with "ACTUALLY important midcard" and replace "makeshift clusterfukk made up of thrown together teams" with "tier full of unimportant jobbers."

How fukking hard is it for a company to at least try to make it look like guys have to EARN title shots and opportunities at facing the champions? If you want to make the belts look meaningful and important, start by making the divisions look like more than a JTTS wasteland. This is NOT done by jobbing out the champions every time you want to create a title feud, especially if it's to guys who have lost a million matches on prominent TV shows for the past 3 years. It's done by making guys look credible BEFORE they get to the belt, and thus making the division and BELT look credible and important.

And I really like the Usos, for the record. But they're jobbers. Jobbers should not even come close to getting title shots 98% of the time. No way around it.



Plus, you have an angle here. It could be they were going easy on The Usos because they're Roman Reigns's cousins, or they just wanted to make them think they were strong before their championship match before they squashed them.

This shyt writes itself.

No one in WWE is going to write either of these angles.

The family angle would actually be kind of interesting to see (the other one is inherently flawed because it undermines the whole wins and losses thing. If they're willing to do that, then what the fukk is a non-PPV win and/or loss supposed to mean?), but no one in WWE is actually creative enough to write it.

And did the OP forget to put this in the report?

Teddy Long and Vince backstage - Teddy announces the MITB WHC lineup of Barret, Ambrose, Fandango, Swagger, Cesaro, Sandow, and Rhodes... and I can't remember who if anyone else. Ends with Teddy and Vince doing the Fandango pronunciation thing.

Lineup kind of sucks a dikk, and I really don't know who you have win since it's mainly composed of JTTSes...but at least the match will be good.
 

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Weve been hearing about the Usos push..surprised they pinned the Shield after the hype of unity and them running the yard. They're doing that shaky booking again of champions losing tv matches before the PPV again. It makes no sense.
 

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So...jobbing out the US and Tag Champs in a 6 man tag with no build to set up matches that (probably) have foregone conclusions makes belts that are usually on the waists of guys who job a lot for no reason look important.

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Losing a match != jobbing. There's a difference.

Both belt scenes suck tremendously because apparently they can't book any other way than this. Here's a suggestion: Have the Usos compete in an ACTUAL tag division instead of a makeshift clusterfukk made up of thrown together teams that occasionally gets focus and make their way up the ranks by beating people. Let the Shield have their one loss, and have them keep beating people and looking dominant. Then, when the Usos have properly built enough cred for themselves by beating people in the division, THEN have them face the champs to see which one of the teams that don't lose often will lose in a title match. Do the same for Christian, except replace "ACTUAL tag division" with "ACTUALLY important midcard" and replace "makeshift clusterfukk made up of thrown together teams" with "tier full of unimportant jobbers."

I don't disagree with this, at least on paper. But the only way they're going to MAKE an actual tag division is by giving these teams legitimate wins. If it's jobbers beating jobbers, who cares?

How fukking hard is it for a company to at least try to make it look like guys have to EARN title shots and opportunities at facing the champions?

That's exactly what they did. Now, admittedly, the teams The Usos were fighting weren't exactly top tier, but that's another issue. By all means, they earned their title opportunity, even if it was basically by default.

If you want to make the belts look meaningful and important, start by making the divisions look like more than a JTTS wasteland. This is NOT done by jobbing out the champions every time you want to create a title feud, especially if it's to guys who have lost a million matches on prominent TV shows for the past 3 years. It's done by making guys look credible BEFORE they get to the belt, and thus making the division and BELT look credible and important.

Again, I agree with this, on paper. But you can't make them look credible any other way at this point.

Look, the tag division is in terrible shape, been that way for the longest. No one cares if The Usos defeat Tons of Funk or Team Rhodes Scholars. They're in that same wasteland as The Usos, and them trading wins with each other doesn't help either. You know how you make them look credible? Give them an upset win over a dominant team. Unfortunately, there is no other dominant team besides The Shield right now.

And while I agree they need to stop jobbing out their champions, this is hardly the case here, and it's hardly the same as, say, Barrett and Cesaro's numerous non-title losses.

And I really like the Usos, for the record. But they're jobbers. Jobbers should not even come close to getting title shots 98% of the time. No way around it.

What I'm telling you is that this logic doesn't work because THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TAG TEAM AND MIDCARD ARE JOBBERS. By your logic, NO ONE in either category should have a title shot.

You know how we fix this? By not jobbing them out anymore. That's what they're doing.

By all means, they're in a shytty place with their midcard and tag divisions right now, and it's really a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Either they let The Shield walk all over the tag teams, which weakens the division even further, or they let some teams get upset wins on them, which makes the team pinning them look good, but hurts The Shield's credibility. The only other option is to build up a new team that's just as much a threat as The Shield, but that would be stupid and it wouldn't help anything.
 

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Is that really the WHC MitB lineup? That shyt is :flabbynsick:.

But I guess I should just be glad one of these floundering midcarders will get a world title opportunity.
 

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Christian has won nearly every title in the WWE since his time there, but he's not the Shield's level? :wtf:



All Face/All Heel MiTB :manny:
 

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That's exactly what they did. Now, admittedly, the teams The Usos were fighting weren't exactly top tier, but that's another issue. By all means, they earned their title opportunity, even if it was basically by default.



Again, I agree with this, on paper. But you can't make them look credible any other way at this point.

Look, the tag division is in terrible shape, been that way for the longest. No one cares if The Usos defeat Tons of Funk or Team Rhodes Scholars. They're in that same wasteland as The Usos, and them trading wins with each other doesn't help either. You know how you make them look credible? Give them an upset win over a dominant team. Unfortunately, there is no other dominant team besides The Shield right now.

And while I agree they need to stop jobbing out their champions, this is hardly the case here, and it's hardly the same as, say, Barrett and Cesaro's numerous non-title losses.


You couldn't have had them beat Team Hell No before they broke up? Or have had them beat the Rhodes Scholars? Both teams who are not the champions, but have been fixtures in the title scene for the past 10 months. You have credible teams right here, but you have them beat jobbers for the shot instead (nothing wrong with beating jobbers to build some credibility, but not for a title shot)? That's dumb and short sighted, especially considering the fact that they've been wanting to push the Usos for a while.



What I'm telling you is that this logic doesn't work because THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TAG TEAM AND MIDCARD ARE JOBBERS. By your logic, NO ONE in either category should have a title shot.

You know how we fix this? By not jobbing them out anymore. That's what they're doing.

By all means, they're in a shytty place with their midcard and tag divisions right now, and it's really a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Either they let The Shield walk all over the tag teams, which weakens the division even further, or they let some teams get upset wins on them, which makes the team pinning them look good, but hurts The Shield's credibility. The only other option is to build up a new team that's just as much a threat as The Shield, but that would be stupid and it wouldn't help anything.

Ignoring the very prominent possibility that this could be just a flash in the pan and that they'll be right back to jobbing out within 3 months (which would make them beating the Shield incredibly stupid)...

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How in the fukk is the bolded stupid? Isn't this how big matches against prominent threats have been built for years (Case in point: the nWo and Sting; Hogan and Warrior)? You build an equal threat, then build a strong division around that feud and its fallout, that seems like the EASIEST and most logical way to solve this conundrum to me. Hot shotting is what is counterproductive and what solves nothing, which is what they're doing with the Usos right now.
 

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Christian has won nearly every title in the WWE since his time there, but he's not the Shield's level? :wtf:



All Face/All Heel MiTB :manny:

He's booked as a midcarder and he's on the tail end of his career. He shouldn't be spearheading Shield-beating teams in unpromoted random 6 mans.

I'd be fine with him feuding with them in some capacity, but why in the fukk should Christian be beating a group of rising stars that could be used for bigger matches in random SmackDown encounters with no build?
 

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He's booked as a midcarder and he's on the tail end of his career. He shouldn't be spearheading Shield-beating teams in unpromoted random 6 mans.

I'd be fine with him feuding with them in some capacity, but why in the fukk should Christian be beating a group of rising stars that could be used for bigger matches in random SmackDown encounters with no build?

The PPV isn't until the 14th they need to fill time and build a storyline, can't have the Shield beating them for 2-3 weeks and more than likely go over then too.
 

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i actually think the smack down mitb is better than the raw one. lots of potential. maybe Cesaro gets his big push, or someone like Cody or sandow gets elevated to the next level. doubt they let swagger win since he was in the title picture recently and ambrose with the u.s. title so he good with that for now. fandango buzz died down so unlikely he wins. my money is on Cesaro, with Barrett being a strong contender. the raw one looks weak overall. randy, sheamus, and christian, :scusthov:. who else in there? Kane? Curtis Axel? nobody interesting or deserving. everyone knows who gonna win that match. :bryan:


as far as the shield is concerned. sure they could've been beat by better opponents but they still a strong team and should be OK for the time being.
 
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