SCOTUS Watch Thread

[nyknick]

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

So under this new ruling, just because your grandpappy donated some $$ years ago or even graduated shouldn’t automatically get you admission to an institution of higher learning correct? Just wondering how far this new ruling extends or is it just race related?

For a group of muthafukkas who hated the Warren court and cried about them legislating from the bench, the Roberts court sure does the same. And for a guy who claimed he deeply cares about how history will look at the court he was Chief Justice of, Roberts has been the absolute worst.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

 

[Bleed The Freak]

So under this new ruling, just because your grandpappy donated some $$ years ago or even graduated shouldn’t automatically get you admission to an institution of higher learning correct? Just wondering how far this new ruling extends or is it just race related?

For a group of muthafukkas who hated the Warren court and cried about them legislating from the bench, the Roberts court sure does the same. And for a guy who claimed he deeply cares about how history will look at the court he was Chief Justice of, Roberts has been the absolute worst.

He's hard to pin down

Saved Obamacare and had the 5-4 decision for the Voting Rights act.

Now Thomas on the other hand.....

 

[Bleed The Freak]

My guess is a few more states will faze in banning of legacy admissions but make effective after the 2024 election

I could see a few states like Michigan doing it

 

[wire28]

Hit us with the predictable okey doke

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

It’s interesting but California was able to work around anti affirmative legislation by investing in its community college transfer programs and investing in class based programs. I believe UCLA black population matches Los Angeles black population as a whole.

NYC does this as well with CUNY. Where they enroll minority students into a community college and automatically sets them on a path to getting into the best CUNY schools (Hunter, Baruch, Queens College Brooklyn).

Hopefully blue states Universities will start limiting their admission pool and investing more in their transfer pool.

 

[WIA20XX]

It’s interesting but California was able to work around anti affirmative legislation by investing in its community college transfer programs and investing in class based programs. I believe UCLA black population matches Los Angeles black population as a whole.

NYC does this as well with CUNY. Where they enroll minority students into a community college and automatically sets them on a path to getting into the best CUNY schools (Hunter, Baruch, Queens College Brooklyn).

Hopefully blue states Universities will start limiting their admission pool and investing more in their transfer pool.

These types of programs are in a lot of states, red ones too.

This case isn't really about regular Black folks applying to regular colleges. CUNY is a good school, but it's not NYU. Nobody outside of NYC cares if you got your degree for Fordham, they do care if you got it from Columbia.

This case is about keeping Black people out of highly selective institutions - Harvard, UVA, University of Michigan, Yale - which are the gateways to the halls of power in practically every important institution in the country.

Without these types of schools, you don't get a lot of the Black professional class in investment banking, top legal jobs, etc.

This knocks out the future Stacey Abrams types of people (Yale and Yale Law School). (Kamala went to Howard and UCSF for Law school).

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

My guess is a few more states will faze in banning of legacy admissions but make effective after the 2024 election

I could see a few states like Michigan doing it

this isn't going to work, sorry, but if someone has built a $100M state of the art athletic, research, art, etc facility on a campus, something that makes a school stand out, they're going to get favors when it comes to their son, grand daughter, nieces, etc being admitted. schools are always looking for donations and legal or not, they're not about to cut off the money stream

 

[bright black]

How did they determine schools discriminated against asians? And if schools did discriminate against asians how did they determine affirmative action was the reason why it discriminated against asians?

 

[wire28]

this isn't going to work, sorry, but if someone has built a $100M state of the art athletic, research, art, etc facility on a campus, something that makes a school stand out, they're going to get favors when it comes to their son, grand daughter, nieces, etc being admitted. schools are always looking for donations and legal or not, they're not about to cut off the money stream

But that’s not fair though

 

[Bleed The Freak]

this isn't going to work, sorry, but if someone has built a $100M state of the art athletic, research, art, etc facility on a campus, something that makes a school stand out, they're going to get favors when it comes to their son, grand daughter, nieces, etc being admitted. schools are always looking for donations and legal or not, they're not about to cut off the money stream

NY State Senate Bill 2023-S4170A

Enacts the "fair college admissions act"; prohibits legacy admissions policies at colleges and universities in New York; declares such policies and practices to be discriminatory and inequitable.

www.nysenate.gov

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

NY State Senate Bill 2023-S4170A

Enacts the "fair college admissions act"; prohibits legacy admissions policies at colleges and universities in New York; declares such policies and practices to be discriminatory and inequitable.

www.nysenate.gov

like i said, this won't work in practice...

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

These types of programs are in a lot of states, red ones too.

This case isn't really about regular Black folks applying to regular colleges. CUNY is a good school, but it's not NYU. Nobody outside of NYC cares if you got your degree for Fordham, they do care if you got it from Columbia.

This case is about keeping Black people out of highly selective institutions - Harvard, UVA, University of Michigan, Yale - which are the gateways to the halls of power in practically every important institution in the country.

Without these types of schools, you don't get a lot of the Black professional class in investment banking, top legal jobs, etc.

This knocks out the future Stacey Abrams types of people (Yale and Yale Law School). (Kamala went to Howard and UCSF for Law school).

I have to believe those universities with its heavy endowments will probably do the same.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

like i said, this won't work in practice...

You can't stop someone behind closed doors from pulling strings yes

But removing the question from the app is a start