Scientists Reveal the Real Face of a 35,000-Year-Old Egyptian Man

[Afrodroid]

Meanwhile, this me and @RehReh. The clothed ones, I don't know them other hoes.

Ancient Egyptians were some skilled mfs with the pencil

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

No, I'm saying Ramses II was the same color as the Nubians, ie, black of the brown skinned variety. Trying to paint ancient Egyptians as some kinda exotical mix

Who is arguing they were 'some exotical mix'?​

 

[HarlemHottie]

We are clearly at the strip club smoking Shisha

Nails done, hair done, everything did!

Not even being funny, I'm that complexion, currently have chunky twist, and am wearing gold circular earrings with that whirly symbol, but mine are TWO layers. Peep the advancements of the new millenium (read: none).

Slaying since the bc's!

 

[HarlemHottie]

Who is arguing they were 'some exotical mix'?​

They looked like the people that live there, now.
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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

That isn't an 'exotical mix'.

As I've stated before....
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Some Egyptians were dark-skinned Nubians, others were Middle-Eastern/Semitic due to location and trade.

This is noted in the tomb art.​

 

[King Poetic]

Lawrence fishburne

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

This about right. 30k years ago there was no white skinned people

Bingo.

The mutation/adaptation for light skin didn't appear until several thousand years later. It was a world of dark skinned people that probably had features that you currently see in every race today.

 

[RehReh]

Nails done, hair done, everything did!

Not even being funny, I'm that complexion, currently have chunky twist, and am wearing gold circular earrings with that whirly symbol, but mine are TWO layers. Peep the advancements of the new millenium (read: none).

Slaying since the bc's!

Big facts, same here! The more things change they stay the same. Down to the fact Egyptian women used to have double ear piercings too, what's that line LL said about she gotta have Bamboo Earrings at least 2 pairs

 

[HarlemHottie]

That isn't an 'exotical mix'.

As I've stated before....
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First of all, I can't be expected to be knowledgeable of opinions you stated in a whole nother thread. Come, now.

Second, I would firmly push back on that 'some were this, some were that'. I think people misunderstand ethnicity and nationhood in the world. (My academic specialty is in ancient Greece.) Semitic Phoenician traders who set up shop for, potentially, generations in the Nile Delta didn't consider themselves Egyptian (a term that didn't even exist back then). Similarly, it took a while for the Carthaginians to forge out a real 'north African identity' away from Tyre.

Even in the case of the Faiyum mummies, the children were decked out in Roman amulets. signifying a Roman material culture. They were neither Egyptians nor Kemetyu.

Even the Ptolemy's maintained some distance from the true Kemetyu; iirc, Cleopatra VII, the one we know, was the first fluent in the native language.

As far as I can tell, Kemet was peopled from the south and the supply was regularly replunushed. You have to understand, the green Sahara was still drying up for a good part of the Old Kingdom (2700- 2200 bc). Following waterways, I'd imagine that ppl came from ALL directions, incl west.


Most recently, the idea has taken hold that the end of the African humid period occurred from north to south in a stepwise fashion.[707][708][350] In northeastern Asia,[709] the western Sahara and east Africa it ended within 500 years[710] with a one-step drying 6,000 – 5,000 years ago north of the present-day monsoon belt. Farther south, precipitation decrease was more protracted[15][112][711] and closer to the equator the AHP ended between 4,000 and 2,500 years ago.[112][15] In East Africa, pronounced drying occurred between 4,500 and 3,500 years ago, centered on 4,000 years ago;[235] Egypt during the Old Kingdom was still wetter than today.[712] A later end in northeast Africa about 4,000 years ago may reflect the different configuration of landmasses and thus monsoon behaviour,[713] while other research has found a westward propagating drying trend.[111]

African humid period - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[HarlemHottie]

Big facts, same here! The more things change they stay the same. Down to the fact Egyptian women used to have double ear piercings too, what's that line LL said about she gotta have Bamboo Earrings at least 2 pairs

I want a girl with extensions in her hair,
bamboo earrings, at least two pair.
A Fendi bag and a bad attitude,
that's all I need to get me in a good mood.

 

[NinoBrown]

Broah kind of favors like Laurence Fishburne.

One of the oldest Homo sapiens skulls in existence gets a stunning digital makeover.

BY DARREN ORFPUBLISHED: APR 4, 2023

Moacir Elias Santos and Cícero Moraes

• For decades, scientists have been putting digital faces to the fossilized remains of ancient people—both famous and unknown.
• A new study pieces together the face of a 35,000-year-old man, whose remains were discovered in Egypt's Nile Valley in 1980.
• This digital approximation revealed a surprisingly robust jaw (compared to modern humans) and a detailed portrait of a unique era of human history.

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Around 35,000 years ago, a man of African ancestry died in what is now Egypt. Predating the first known pharaoh by 32 millennia, no one knows who this man was or what kind of society he lived in. The only archaeological clue was the ax found beside him when his bones were uncovered more than four decades ago at Nazlet Khater 2, an archaeological site in Egypt’s Nile Valley.
Although the details of his life are lost to time, his death is one of the most consequential moments in archaeology. That’s because this man, who stood 5 foot 3 inches tall and was between the ages of 17 and 29, is the oldest known Homo sapiens skeleton in Egypt, and one the oldest in the world. And, crucially, his skull is remarkably intact.
Now, 43 years after its initial discovery, Brazilian scientists have used a process known as photogrammetry to digitally recreate what this ancient man might have looked like. Their preprint study was published (in Portuguese) in late March.
"The skeleton has most of the bones preserved, although there have been some losses," co-author and archeologist Moacir Elias Santos told Live Science. "But the main structure for facial approximation, the skull, was well preserved."

By piecing together detailed images of the skeleton, scientists created two composite images: one black-and-white image in a neutral state and another in a more life-like rendering with facial hair and curly locks. The researchers discovered that the skull itself had a mostly modern structure, though the jaw was much more robust than what’s typically found in modern Homo sapiens, a possible genetic leftover from our Great Ape ancestors.

The practice of photogrammetry in archaeology is decades old, but recent technological developments have made the technique more affordable, ubiquitous, and accurate. At its most basic, photogrammetry creates 3D renderings from 2D images and uses feature matching to capture an artifact, burial site, or (in this case) a skull from every angle.

Over the past several years, scientists have rendered many digital recreations derived from human fossils. In 2016, the University of Glasgow recreated Scotland’s legendary king Robert the Bruce using a cast of the original skull and some population statistics to fill in the blanks (a 14th century Scottish king likely had red hair and brown eyes, for example.)

Other studies have also digitally recreated famous faces found in the same region as this 35,000-year-old specimen. In 2021, scientists from the Face Lab at Liverpool John Moores University in the United Kingdom recreated the face of Ramses II, arguably ancient Egypt’s most famous pharaoh, who reigned from 1279 to 1213 BCE. Using a collection of CT scan data, Ramses II, who died around the age of 90, was even de-aged to when he was about 45 years old.

The Brazilian scientists admit that their digital recreation is only an approximation, but the because of the sheer age of the skeleton (dating back to the tail end of the Paleolithic era), this facial facsimile not only puts a face to a little-known era of human history, but also helps scientists understand an important chapter in human evolution.

Scientists Reveal the Real Face of a 35,000-Year-Old Egyptian Man

One of the oldest Homo sapiens skulls in existence gets a stunning digital makeover.

www.popularmechanics.com

Pharoh Fawcett, when I spit/
Give you cats the biscuit/
Get you killed in the pit, Michael Vick/
Send you to Ra, now you really lit/

 

[Serious]

thise egyptians losing their fukking minds over this just like what kevin hart said???

I don’t get this argument that ancient “Egyptians” aren’t black. Their hieroglyphics clearly show depict black people.

Nonblack people ain’t just going depict us, for the fun of it.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

First of all, I can't be expected to be knowledgeable of opinions you stated in a whole nother thread. Come, now.

That was to show you what my actual position has consistently been.​

Second, I would firmly push back on that 'some were this, some were that'. I think people misunderstand ethnicity and nationhood in the world. (My academic specialty is in ancient Greece.) Semitic Phoenician traders who set up shop for, potentially, generations in the Nile Delta didn't consider themselves Egyptian (a term that didn't even exist back then). Similarly, it took a while for the Carthaginians to forge out a real 'north African identity' away from Tyre.

Even in the case of the Faiyum mummies, the children were decked out in Roman amulets. signifying a Roman material culture. They were neither Egyptians nor Kemetyu.

Even the Ptolemy's maintained some distance from the true Kemetyu; iirc, Cleopatra VII, the one we know, was the first fluent in the native language.

As far as I can tell, Kemet was peopled from the south and the supply was regularly replunushed. You have to understand, the green Sahara was still drying up for a good part of the Old Kingdom (2700- 2200 bc). Following waterways, I'd imagine that ppl came from ALL directions, incl west.

My 'pushback' is that Phoenicia and Carthage are relatively recent and not fully demonstrative of your conclusion. We know that trade existed all throughout the Fertile Crescent, from what would be China to what became Western Europe, at least 2,000 years before either of those cities existed. We also know that there had been an influx (back-migration) of Middle Eastern people into Northern Africa at least 10-15,000 years ago (Amazigh/Berbers) probably during the 'Green Sahara' period. Lastly, we also know that Africans have the greatest amount of genetic diversity and range in pigmentation and phenotype due to environment/latitude....

I say all that to say that Ancient Egyptian Civilization was a lot more 'diverse' than its contemporaries.​

 

[HarlemHottie]

That was to show you what my actual position has consistently been.

My 'pushback' is that Phoenicia and Carthage are relatively recent and not fully demonstrative of your conclusion. We know that trade existed all throughout the Fertile Crescent, from what would be China to what became Western Europe, at least 2,000 years before either of those cities existed. We also know that there had been an influx (back-migration) of Middle Eastern people into Northern Africa at least 10-15,000 years ago (Amazigh/Berbers) probably during the 'Green Sahara' period. Lastly, we also know that Africans have the greatest amount of genetic diversity and range in pigmentation and phenotype due to environment/latitude.

I say all that to say that Ancient Egyptian Civilization was a lot more 'diverse' than its contemporaries.​

I purposefully picked two ends of the timeline.

Like I said, I think the black population was constantly replenished from the south/ south-west. There's plenty of cultural, material evidence that their culture was based in African ideals, from the religion to artistic style to the opinions of others who actually saw them irl.







All are shorts, I know how the coli attention span works.

 

[David_TheMan]

These reconstructions are pure fiction nothing close to scientific about any of this shyt