Scientists calculate that the Earth may be the only planet in the entire galaxy capable of supporting advanced life

[mag357]

One of the astronomers involved works for the University of Texas and the other works for a university in Switzerland. They are not taking any orders from "the government".






Can you break down what you mean by that?

I can see by the way your debating that you believe what you believe.
I get it. Nothing wrong with that.

But from what I've seen, everything that you know is controlled.
There is no way any information that is known by you or me didn't get ok'd by someone.
Basically In some way, shape, form or fashion the information you know is controlled.

And everything must be peer reviewed...
If those people in the scientific community say your findings are trash.
Then your findings are trash. And no one will know about it or it will be considered unscientific/debunked

 

[Professor Emeritus]

But from what I've seen, everything that you know is controlled.
There is no way any information that is known by you or me didn't get ok'd by someone.
Basically In some way, shape, form or fashion the information you know is controlled.

That's not how reality works. There are 195 nations on Earth, many of which have entirely different agendas, in addition to people who work for thousands of private and nonprofit groups all over the world plus independent researchers. No one "controls" all of that.

And everything must be peer reviewed...

If those people in the scientific community say your findings are trash.
Then your findings are trash. And no one will know about it or it will be considered unscientific/debunked

There are over 28,000 different scientific journals out there. Around 5,000 of those pertain to astronomy or astrophysics in some way (including all the journals that publish on physics in general or all science topics). If you information is legit, then someone definitely will publish it.

But yes, you are correct, if the entire scientific community says your findings are trash, they will be considered trash.

 

[wire28]

All I’m gonna say professor is we don’t know what we don’t know

 

[Macallik86]

Well I calculate that it’s not.

#DoYourOwnResearch #MasksMathsDontWork

 

[Spidey Man]

To say that Earth is the only planet capable of life is the height of hubris. There are trillions of uncharted planets out there. Even if you qualify the statement as just this galaxy, who's to say there isn't life on Titan, Jupiter or Saturn. They could be full of advanced life forms that we don't know about because of limitations in our technology or knowledge base.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

To say that Earth is the only planet capable of life is the height of hubris. There are trillions of uncharted planets out there. Even if you qualify the statement as just this galaxy, who's to say there isn't life on Titan, Jupiter or Saturn. They could be full of advanced life forms that we don't know about because of limitations in our technology or knowledge base.

No one is saying that the Earth is the only planet "capable of life". The Drake Equation is specifically about the current existence of civilizations advanced enough to potentially communicate with humans across space. Even on Earth, a planet that was amazingly perfect for forming life, that capacity has only developed once, among a single species, in 4,600,000,000 years of evolution.

This is the Drake equation:

𝑁=𝑅∗⋅𝑓p⋅𝑛e⋅𝑓l⋅𝑓i⋅𝑓c⋅𝐿, where

• N = the number of civilizations in the Milky Way galaxy with which communication might be possible (i.e. which are on the current past light cone);

and

• R∗ = the average rate of star formation in our Galaxy.
• fp = the fraction of those stars that have planets.
• ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets.
• fl = the fraction of planets that could support life that actually develop life at some point.
• fi = the fraction of planets with life that go on to develop intelligent life (civilizations).
• fc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space.
• L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space.

By that definition, there absolutely is not a communicative civilization on Saturn, Mars, or Titan, because no civilization anywhere in our solar system is releasing detectable signals into space.

The greatest hubris I've seen in this thread is from people who barely ever have seriously considered such a question, and who certainly have never taken a single course on the subject, thinking that they're coming up with questions and roadblocks that haven't already been considered by those who have literally spent their entire careers focusing on the issue.

 

[Robbie3000]

@Professor Emeritus

I think everyone, including the scientists who wrote this piece, needs to display a great amount of humility on this subject area given how little we actually know and the vastness of the cosmos.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

@Professor Emeritus

I think everyone, including the scientists who wrote this piece, needs to display a great amount of humility on this subject area given how little we actually know and the vastness of the cosmos.

Do you believe that the scientists shouldn't even study the question? Or that they shouldn't share their results when they study it? Remember, they offered a huge range of possibilities (somewhere between 0.006 and 100,000 advanced civilizations), they just said that the evidence suggests it's closer to the lower end.

Is the issue that they came up with a potential range at all, or just that people don't like the answer they came up with?

 

[MushroomX]

I bet these were the same fools who snatched Pluto's planetary chain.

 

[Robbie3000]

Do you believe that the scientists shouldn't even study the question? Or that they shouldn't share their results when they study it? Remember, they offered a huge range of possibilities (somewhere between 0.006 and 100,000 advanced civilizations), they just said that the evidence suggests it's closer to the lower end.

Is the issue that they came up with a potential range at all, or just that people don't like the answer they came up with?

Ofcourse they should study the question. But they should do it with great humility. And knowing how scientists present findings, I think the scientists are way more skeptical about their claims than the way it was reported in the media.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Ofcourse they should study the question. But they should do it with great humility. And knowing how scientists present findings, I think the scientists are way more skeptical about their claims than the way it was reported in the media.

That much is definitely true. If you look at the title of my thread, then look at the title of the article, the title of the thread matches what the scientists said better than the title of the article does.

Unfortunately, everyone needs to get clicks nowadays.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

It's always ironic to me that the type of people who legitimately believe that we've been visited by extraterrestrials from other galaxies will be the same type of people clamoring about the stupidity of the average American and their capacity to be blind sheep believing in anything with little to no skepticism.

 

[Outlaw]

It's always ironic to me that the type of people who legitimately believe that we've been visited by extraterrestrials from other galaxies will be the same type of people clamoring about the stupidity of the average American and their capacity to be blind sheep believing in anything with little to no skepticism.

If you think we think that aliens from other galaxies are visiting us then you shouldn’t speak on this subject

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

If you think we think that aliens from other galaxies are visiting us then you shouldn’t speak on this subject

You cited Bob Lazar as a source earlier in this thread. I think it's fair to say I can safely assume that your thoughts on this subject, let alone who you think should be speaking on it suggests that you are.............pretty impressionable when it comes to this topic, to put it mildly.


I wouldn't put anything past what you think or believe to be reality here.

 

[Outlaw]

You cited Bob Lazar as a source earlier in this thread. I think it's fair to say I can safely assume that your thoughts on this subject, let alone who you think should be speaking on it suggests that you are.............pretty impressionable when it comes to this topic, to put it mildly.


I wouldn't put anything past what you think or believe to be reality here.

It’s all speculation. It’s also foolish to equate UFOs and politics. I chose to believe his story just like the OP choses to believe in the judeo-Christian God.

The fact that you think that we believe aliens from other galaxies are visiting us shows you’re trolling out of ignorance