School Principal: Authoritarian Parenting Partly Responsible for Black/White Achievement Gap

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The New York Times, great source. I'll be back with scientific journals when I get done eating.
are you gonna quote social science journals (borderline fringe bullshyt often times)? or are you gonna keep polluting this shyt with conjecture and red-herrings?

fall back son.

You calling this "morality" is just you sticking to your guns so you can think out loud in this thread and try and come up with a thesis you don't even truly believe.

MORALITY?

Really now?
 

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If you say so. I think a child that goes to a top tier school but lives in an authoritarian environment will prosper before the child the lives in abject poverty but comes home to a authoritative environment. It's why the second usually makes it in the news and is celebrated.

My parents aren't even from the US, but from the islands. Most kids I know of that are 1st generation kids relate to this more or less.

And you're buying into a White agenda since most of them don't even employ a authoritative parenting style.

...whats your point here?

White kids tend to enjoy a little more room to experiment and engage their parents. Call it what you want, but we're not allowing our kids to develop the tools of logic and expression that will grreatly influence their ability to achieve.
 

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are you gonna quote social science journals (borderline fringe bullshyt often times)? or are you gonna keep polluting this shyt with conjecture and red-herrings?

fall back son.

You calling this "morality" is just you sticking to your guns so you can think out loud in this thread and try and come up with a thesis you don't even truly believe.

MORALITY?

Really now?

If it's fringe BS then there's no convincing you. You have your opinion on the matter and I got mines. You have a microscopic view and mines is macro.
 

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White kids tend to enjoy a little more room to experiment and engage their parents. Call it what you want, but we're not allowing our kids to develop the tools of logic and expression that will grreatly influence their ability to achieve.

This is bullshyt. White's enjoy top notch textbooks, pressure free environments from danger, tutors, top notch educators, access to The Internet, AP and STEM (IB) classes, etc.
 

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This is bullshyt. White's enjoy top notch textbooks, pressure free environments from danger, tutors, top notch educators, access to The Internet, AP and STEM (IB) classes, etc.


One of the greatest scientists of the 20th century was Enrico Fermi.

Fermi taught himself physics/math by reading physics books and doing science experiments with his older brother. He wasn't rich and had few resources. In fact, some of history's greatest thinkers were largely self-taught. I can name others if you so desire.

You can read Fermi's biography below: http://books.google.com/books?id=n_...=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=enrico fermi&f=false
 

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One of the greatest scientists of the 20th century was Enrico Fermi.

Fermi taught himself physics/math by reading physics books and doing science experiments with his older brother. He wasn't rich and had few resources. In fact, some of history's greatest thinkers were largely self-taught. I can name others if you so desire.

You can read Fermi's biography below: http://books.google.com/books?id=n_p0TmPHIJwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=enrico fermi&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uiSpUsrkGejhyQG6o4GwBA&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=enrico fermi&f=false


Ever heard of the term "outlier?"
 

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Poitier,

Are you a st0rmfr0nt troll?

At this point, it seems as if you're deliberately deceiving others. One thing that I warn young blacks is that the worst racists will be nice & friendly, yet simultaneously encourage you to be self-destructive through deception. They will want you to steal, drop out of school, do drugs, go on welfare, have illegitimate children, act crazy in public--because as long as you continue acting that way, it reinforces negative stereotypes about blacks.

The following video gives a better explanation:

 
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I got a question for you how come carribeans and africans black immigrants far outpaced their fellow african american black in educational achievements breh? What's your opinion and or theory on that fact?
first of all, I don't think this is universally true.

HOWEVER speaking with both 1st generation kids of parents literally from west africa and the islands, they relate to this article. I think its that we're not really allowed to try and experiment and engage with our parents with logic etc. Maybe our parents are working too hard to take that time to develop us in a way that might aid our development. Plus imagine moving to another country and basically getting it POPPING. That shyt is gonna rub off on your kids to some degree.

my folks are from the islands...I honestly think its the culture and it IS somewhat different from how black americans do things. Its impressed upon you young to "do something" and to push hard, but even still, that strict authoritarian view hurts a lot of kids who never live up to it, even if they have those goals. Even still tho
 

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Poitier,

Are you a st0rmfr0nt troll?

At this point, it seems as if you're deliberately deceiving others. One thing that I warn young blacks is that the worst racists will be nice & friendly, yet simultaneously encourage you to be self-destructive.

The following video gives a better explanation:



I'm Black and probably came from WAY less than you, in The South no less where resources and opportunities to achieve don't even exist.
 

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This is bullshyt. White's enjoy top notch textbooks, pressure free environments from danger, tutors, top notch educators, access to The Internet, AP and STEM (IB) classes, etc.

Son. Did you even read the article. :what:

This is A PART of a child's upbringing and ability to achieve, not all of it.

I have peers who were literally just UNAWARE of the fact they could talk to teachers and ask for the ability to do little shyt like postponing tests, asking for extensions, talking to them about job opportunities etc.

I knew people who were scared to even talk to their teachers or other adults and taught to ALWAYS fall in line.
 

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Son. Did you even read the article. :what:

This is A PART of a child's upbringing and ability to achieve, not all of it.

I have peers who were literally just UNAWARE of the fact they could talk to teachers and ask for the ability to do little shyt like postponing tests, asking for extensions, talking to them about job opportunities etc.

I knew people who were scared to even talk to their teachers or other adults and taught to ALWAYS fall in line.

That's a resource issue, not a parenting one. School quality is a resource issue. There are tons of students that prosper in spite of their parents due to great educators. You don't get great educators unless you have funding or very rarely the teacher has that much intrinsic motivation and empathy.
 

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That's a resource issue, not a parenting one. School quality is a resource issue. There are tons of students that prosper in spite of their parents due to great educators. You don't get great educators unless you have funding or very rarely the teacher has that much intrinsic motivation and empathy.

resources ain't everything.

I bet you think every white kid is out here snacking on lobster for lunch, right?
 

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@Poitier, i'll let you have this. You just wanna shut anything down that doesn't fit your narrative of how to raise kids by bring up the most irrelevant shyt ever as if we don't already know it OR are discounting it.

Keep trolling. Hopefully when you look in the mirror you'll find someone who cares :heh:
 

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resources ain't everything.

I bet you think every white kid is out here snacking on lobster for lunch, right?

http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/21/news/economy/wealth-gap-race/


@Poitier, i'll let you have this. You just wanna shut anything down that doesn't fit your narrative of how to raise kids by bring up the most irrelevant shyt ever as if we don't already know it OR are discounting it.

Keep trolling. Hopefully when you look in the mirror you'll find someone who cares :heh:

Napoleon your a c00n. This is another thread in a long line of them that fit your agenda.
 
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