School Principal: Authoritarian Parenting Partly Responsible for Black/White Achievement Gap

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

nikka you're an outlier. Kids spend more fukking time in school than they do at home M-F GET THE fukk OUT OF HERE.

You offer no solutions other than to tell the subhuman Black parents to value education and to go easy on their kids and ignore the homogeneity of education in this country and the socio-economic position of Blacks in this country. fukk out of here. The day we realize integrated education was the worst thing ever will be the day we close the achievement gap. I'm not talking about people like me and you who slip through the fukking cracks.

I don't have solutions but if motherfukkers ain't gonna give you:

1. Money

2. Resources

then the obvious thing is to raise kids who are trained to value the accumulation of those things.

 

[Poitier]

@Poitier, don't think I ain't peep how you went from "morality" to "money and resources" to "i'm just gonna block this argument cause its sounds racist"

I didn't go from any of those. All those points still fukking stand. I don't have all the answers and you raise some good points but at the end of the day, I haven't seen anything to make me believe that parenting somehow cedes Black institutions that have the resources/money to close the achievement gap.

I don't have solutions but if motherfukkers ain't gonna give you:

1. Money

2. Resources
then the obvious thing is to raise kids who are trained to value the accumulation of those things.

And guess what? You don't have the time/patience to train them perfectly in an imperfect environment, especially if you're working multiple jobs to support the household, especially in The South (majority of the Black population) where public education is already at the fukking bottom. So I guess we are just fukked?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I didn't go from any of those. All those points still fukking stand. I don't have all the answers and you raise some good points but at the end of the day, I haven't seen anything to make me believe that parenting somehow cedes Black institutions that have the resources/money to close the achievement gap.

let me ask you a question, why didn't you go to an HBCU, then?

And guess what? You don't have the time/patience to train them perfectly in an imperfect environment, especially if you're working multiple jobs to support the household, especially in The South (majority of the Black population) where public education is already at the fukking bottom. So I guess we are just fukked?

sounds like a goddamn excuse to me.

 

[Poitier]

let me ask you a question, why didn't you go to an HBCU, then?


sounds like a goddamn excuse to me.

HBCUs aren't top notch institutions especially when you consider a full ride or 200,000 of debt NYC or some Bama town

 

[Depreciating Asset]

I felt like this study which came out this fall is very relevant to the achievement gap:

Language gap between rich and poor children begins in infancy, Stanford psychologists find
Research by Stanford psychologists reveals that 2-year-old children of lower-income families may already be six months behind in language development. Future work aims to devise intervention methods.

BY BJORN CAREY

Fifty years of research has revealed the sad truth that the children of lower-income, less-educated parents typically enter school with poorer language skills than their more privileged counterparts. By some measures, 5-year-old children of lower socioeconomic status score more than two years behind on standardized language development tests by the time they enter school.

Stanford researchers have now found that these socioeconomic status (SES) differences begin to emerge much earlier in life: By 18 months of age, toddlers from disadvantaged families are already several months behind more advantaged children in language proficiency.

The study, published in Developmental Science, is the first to identify an "achievement gap" in language processing skill at such a young age and could inform strategies to intervene and bring children up to speed.

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To me, this is a clear cut issue that parents can address. I know a child (rich Asian parents) who at 3 years old knows what a line segment, angle and octagon are. He can read kids books already. I watched another kid's parents (rich too - white dad/asian mom) explain to their 3 year old kid in detail how a car works (engine, gasoline, energy, brakes, etc). Both kids have traveled to both coasts already. One has traveled outside of the country on several occasions.

I was really impressed to see the level of intellectual engagement that they gave to their children. It made me realize that I can't slack at all. My babies are going to get schooled. No baby talk. Real adult vocabulary and explanations of the way the world works.

My parents didn't do all that. They did a solid job for sure but these wealthy families are on some other shyt.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Its hard for women t get the respect of a man in the house. If you've ever heard a woman call a dog its kind of sad. The dog doesnt listen, he doesnt come, he doesnt stay, he doesnt heel. But with men, often times that authorative voice puts the beats in check right away.

Already, i can see that my son cries to his mother and makes annoying whiny noises when he wants something but with me, he hardly does this. When i hear him making those horrific whiny noises to his mother, i peek my head around the corner and look at him like and he goes. and hushes like shhhh. Lets make sure we're in two parent homes and stop trying to make pancakes without eggs.

 

[Dwolf]

WOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Easy-E]

*in before somebody blames religion*

Propaganda. Money and resources and those alone, are the only factors.

No one--black or white--is perfect.

I do think that authoritarian parenting is more prevalent in black households. When you combine that with other factors, it becomes a recipe for disaster.

No one--black or white--is perfect.

I do think that authoritarian parenting is more prevalent in black households. When you combine that with other factors, it becomes a recipe for disaster.

Both of these are correct, in a way...

Yes, tellin your kids "shut up and don't ask questions" stunts creativity and hinders learning, but, all the great parenting stlye in the world wont--often and for enough ppl--overcome a lack of resources and funds to support said child