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Superstar
I got a question for you how come carribeans and africans black immigrants far outpaced their fellow african american black in educational achievements breh? What's your opinion and or theory on that fact?
School Principal: Authoritarian Parenting Partly Responsible for Black/White Achievement Gap
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I got a question for you how come carribeans and africans black immigrants far outpaced their fellow african american black in educational achievements breh? What's your opinion and or theory on that fact?
You're expanding the scope of the argument. Explaining why blacks tend to endorse authoritarian parenting styles, and by suggesting that parenting style isn't correlated with moral development isn't addressing the argument, which is that parenting style affects ACHIEVEMENT.
A lot of the fukked up behaviour in the black community can be explained as the residual impact of slavery, oppression, and racism, but the fukked up behaviours are still damaging at the end of the day.
Authoritarian style reminds me of dictatorships. There is no logic or common sense, just ignorant people carrying on the ignorance they learned from the previous generation.
People learn more from logic, don't do this because this will happen.
But if you don't listen, then you will feel.
People learn more from logic, don't do this because this will happen.
But if you don't listen, then you will feel.
I've already argued the former, breh. Resources and money = achievement. The latter was just to dead the whole, well Blacks need to dead that parenting style.
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achievement studies dont, but look at black and hispanic kids joining gangs at an extremely high rate. those arent good human beings and clearly the protective style aint working, cause chicago and detroit have an entire generation running around on the streets.
i would say that environment is the best, and an environment of fear instead of love and open communication will just bring up loud, agitated children.
one can argue resources, but if I bus in a bunch of single mom urban kids into a private catholic school, those poor teachers would quit. parenting transfers over to school, not the other way around.
It's not just about resources and money. It's also:
*A positive attitude
*A sense of wonder and a fascination/curiosity about the world around you
*The willingness to learn from mistakes
*The ability to discern between destructive & constructive criticism--and benefit from the latter
*Attentiveness
Among others
Besides, which do you think came first: money/resources or human achievement?
money/resources.
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Superstar
So how do they explain Asian households, where it is authoritarian but their children are generally still doing well?
fukk outta here with this wack ass thread. That principal is an idiot. Not everything is always fukking black and white, like no other groups of people live in this country that will skew her dumbass assertion.
fukk outta here with this wack ass thread. That principal is an idiot. Not everything is always fukking black and white, like no other groups of people live in this country that will skew her dumbass assertion.
Egypt doesn't become a great empire without the Nile
White men can't imperialize without the resources and location of Europe being what it is
Similarly, achievement follows a similar trajectory at the individual level. Parenting style is a subordinate of that framework.
I can't impress upon how important this actually is.
I've had this convo with peers and they definitely relate.
Growing up in black households TO SOME EXTENT because of how we're raised to interact with our parents and taught to express ourselves in adult presence somewhat stifles our ability to express ourselves or to take risks creatively etc.
The shyt might sound like an anecdote to you, but I completely support this principle's comments.
moral development is a limited aspect of ACHIEVEMENT gap. WTF does that even mean man?
Income doesn't hurt, but that parent-child dynamic is CRUCIAL.
you're completely trivializing the argument with some awful anecdotes.
keep trolling though.
So how do they explain Asian households, where it is authoritarian but their children are generally still doing well?
fukk outta here with this wack ass thread. That principal is an idiot. Not everything is always fukking black and white, like no other groups of people live in this country that will skew her dumbass assertion.
The principal doesn't say that it's the only factor; it's one of many factors. Other factors could include:
*Access to positive role models and exposure to highbrow culture
*The parents' own attitude toward education/learning (in Asian cultures, teachers are highly regarded)
*The parents' involvement with their children's education
*The children understanding how education and wealth are closely related
In other words, parents must love learning themselves, model positive behavior to their children, and show how it all leads directly to financial stability/economic success.
Asian children often grow up in environments where they're exposed to other Asian doctors, engineers, scientists, professors, etc.
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If you say so. I think a child that goes to a top tier school but lives in an authoritarian environment will prosper before the child the lives in abject poverty but comes home to a authoritative environment. It's why the second usually makes it in the news and is celebrated.
And you're buying into a White agenda since most of them don't even employ a authoritative parenting style.