Saquon hit that I-95 For Greener Grass and Moore Motion: 2024 Philadelphia Eagles Season Thread

[Dorian Breh]

@Rapmastermind this is not efficient football though.

He is playing "mistake free".

But the Eagles cannot convert first downs consistently through the air.

If we end up with a more than 6 yards to go on 3rd down we have been in bad shape for several weeks - thats not efficient.

What we want from Hurts is what we saw bum ass QBs like Sam Howell and Drew Lock do to the Eagles last year: get the ball out quickly to receivers on a consistent basis.

 

[Rapmastermind]

@Rapmastermind this is not efficient football though.

He is playing "mistake free".

But the Eagles cannot convert first downs consistently through the air.

If we end up with a more than 6 yards to go on 3rd down we have been in bad shape for several weeks - thats not efficient.

What we want from Hurts is what we saw bum ass QBs like Sam Howell and Drew Lock do to the Eagles last year: get the ball out quickly to receivers on a consistent basis.

He has over 100 Passer rating on the season and only 5 INT's. He's literally had 2 turnovers in over 2 months in a 9 game winning streak. How is that not efficient? Listen, I don't care about "Pretty stats" in losses. Jalen has pretty stats in the Super Bowl, it was still an L. It's about doing what necessary to win and Jalen does that week in and week out. Also the game everyone harping on, Jalen still score 3 TD's. Last time I check, getting in the endzone and winning was the goal, not getting a million passing yards and losing. Jalen is doing what needs to be done and is a big part of this 9 game winning streak.

 

[Ohene]

jalen gotta be better but ppl are doing way too much

 

[Dorian Breh]

He has over 100 Passer rating on the season and only 5 INT's. He's literally had 2 turnovers in over 2 months in a 9 game winning streak. How is that not efficient? Listen, I don't care about "Pretty stats" in losses. Jalen has pretty stats in the Super Bowl, it was still an L. It's about doing what necessary to win and Jalen does that week in and week out. Also the game everyone harping on, Jalen still score 3 TD's. Last time I check, getting in the endzone and winning was the goal, not getting a million passing yards and losing. Jalen is doing what needs to be done and is a big part of this 9 game winning streak.

In the last four games he is averaging less than 150 net passing yards.

Passer rating is not a useful stat.

Efficient football involves moving the chains consistently. He isnt doing that.

No one is contending that we didn't win the game or score touchdowns. Just that Jalen can't throw with anticipation, can't reset after evading pressure, can't throw without 3+ seconds in the pocket, and can't really throw between the hashmarks.

 

[greenvale]

In the last four games he is averaging less than 150 net passing yards.

Passer rating is not a useful stat.

Efficient football involves moving the chains consistently. He isnt doing that.

No one is contending that we didn't win the game or score touchdowns. Just that Jalen can't throw with anticipation, can't reset after evading pressure, can't throw without 3+ seconds in the pocket, and can't really throw between the hashmarks.

He can do all of the above. He just has issues doing the last point because of his height which is why they need to get him moving more via play action or bootlegs. straight up drop backs don’t work for him

 

[Rapmastermind]

Guys this is the whole issue. It seems Kellen and Nick devised a plan to keep Jalen under 25 passes and run with Saquon. That's the formula, it's working. It seems some people want us to win a different way. The last thing the Eagles should do it change the plan that is working. Jalen has actually decided to not put the ball in harms way so that means he's not going to take as many risk as he used too (Let's not forget the fans ripped him for taking those risk "Hero Ball"). I am not concerned about the passing game because I know the talent we have this team. Don't be shocked if they air it out a little more on the Steelers as they have a good defense and may limit Saquon (He will still go off but I expect more passing this week).

 

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[EzekelRAGE]

Guys this is the whole issue. It seems Kellen and Nick devised a plan to keep Jalen under 25 passes and run with Saquon. That's the formula, it's working. It seems some people want us to win a different way. The last thing the Eagles should do it change the plan that is working. Jalen has actually decided to not put the ball in harms way so that means he's not going to take as many risk as he used too (Let's not forget the fans ripped him for taking those risk "Hero Ball"). I am not concerned about the passing game because I know the talent we have this team. Don't be shocked if they air it out a little more on the Steelers as they have a good defense and may limit Saquon (He will still go off but I expect more passing this week).

Seems the issue isnt that they want more passing or want to shake up things. They just want Jalen to hit the open shots at his wr instead of just missing them.
It doesnt seem like anyone is asking him to throw more, play hero ball, or anything like that. There is no risk of turnover when the receiver is wide open with no defender within 5 yards of him.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

 

[Ohene]

Guys this is the whole issue. It seems Kellen and Nick devised a plan to keep Jalen under 25 passes and run with Saquon. That's the formula, it's working. It seems some people want us to win a different way. The last thing the Eagles should do it change the plan that is working. Jalen has actually decided to not put the ball in harms way so that means he's not going to take as many risk as he used too (Let's not forget the fans ripped him for taking those risk "Hero Ball"). I am not concerned about the passing game because I know the talent we have this team. Don't be shocked if they air it out a little more on the Steelers as they have a good defense and may limit Saquon (He will still go off but I expect more passing this week).

thats cool and all but there are times where he wouldnt be putting the ball in harms way and is playing scared, missing throws or missing reads

 

[Ohene]

Seems the issue isnt that they want more passing or want to shake up things. They just want Jalen to hit the open shots at his wr instead of just missing them.
It doesnt seem like anyone is asking him to throw more, play hero ball, or anything like that. There is no risk of turnover when the receiver is wide open with no defender within 5 yards of him.

exactly

 

[Ohene]

i dont think there was much wrong with AJ's interview either
this is all on Brandon Graham

 

[EzekelRAGE]

James does raise a good point. If this was a receiver dropping passes or a back not hitting the hole, they would be calling the player out.
Yes yall are winning even with Hurts missing those throws, but that doesnt mean it doesnt need addressing.
It's like what shannon says. "Dont accept anything in a win, that you wouldnt in a defeat."

 

[Rapmastermind]

"You can't Win a Super Bowl throwing for low yards" - Media

Reality:

In Super Bowl LVII, Patrick Mahomes stats against the Eagles:

21/27, 182 Yards, 3 TD's (44 rushing yards)

Some people are implying you can't win a Super Bowl without passing for big yards but Patrick beat us throwing for under 200. The Cheifs Rushed for 160 total yards that game too. (Jalen threw for more yards, ran for more yards and had more TD's than Patrick in that game. It was a loss.).

 

[mikishere]

Seems the issue isnt that they want more passing or want to shake up things. They just want Jalen to hit the open shots at his wr instead of just missing them.
It doesnt seem like anyone is asking him to throw more, play hero ball, or anything like that. There is no risk of turnover when the receiver is wide open with no defender within 5 yards of him.

this. the most annoying thing this season is watching hurts taking unnecessary sacks when receivers are actually open very early on their break but dude refuses to pull the trigger. the turnover talk most definitely got into his head more than anything, but like some of the brehs said in here already, there needs to be a medium between the turnovers and the hesitancy.