OP: "Explain to me why I should be a decent person..?"
Coincidentally, that's the slogan of the Republican party.
Coincidentally, that's the slogan of the Republican party.
Sanctuary Cities.. i dont get it
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It's a moot point really. ICE can still deport these immigrants and there's really nothing the states can do about it. If they are committing crimes general law enforcement will handle it like they do everything else.
If they are working, spending money, not criminals etc then they are contributing to society nearly the same as most people.
If they are working, spending money, not criminals etc then they are contributing to society nearly the same as most people.
I know the face of the demonized Mexican immigrants is what the GOP uses, but immigrants are from, shockingly, many places. San Diego has populations of Jamaican, whom I know personally, and Hatian immigrants, to name two. I loathe the argument about "just doing it the right way", and "My grandma came her legally, why can't they"? Many, many of these people are fleeing extremely horrific situations, that most people, including their biggest detractors cannot even imagine. Coal jobs are lost, heroin addiction rampant....sure, and that's extreme cases in rural Trumpland. These people fleeing places in Mexico, Central America, Jamaica, are fleeing third world conditions, and often extreme violence. They almost always use their last to make it to a border city, and then cross illegally, if that is the case. The process for a visa can be years. It's simply not the most practical solution. These are people trying to survive on a very, very bad hand. Read about Hatians in Tijuana.
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More often than not I tend to take that L.
What are you talking about?
Being a decent person? What does that have to do with anything? How decent is America to us when they gun us down in the streets?Please all leave your petty Republican/Democrat stan wars out of this. I dont see none of that bullshyt
Talking about being decent in America when this country was founded on us being in the bottom of slave ships.
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More often than not I tend to take that L.
I do concur that the Visa process and the path to citenzship on its face seems pretty ridiculous. Is the process comparable to other nations? I am not sure but I will look into it.
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While Chance the Rapper has to send money to underfunded schools because Rahm pledge $1 million in city funds to support immigrants.these cocksuckers like rahm emanuel care about VOTES. nothing else
how many american children in chicago go without, as this dude is declaring he needs to take care of and protect people who are here illegallyhow can he take that fukkin position before every citizen is taken care of and protected?
Rahm Emanuel creates $1 million legal fund to assist immigrants
Mayor Rahm Emanuel. | Sun-Times file photo
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Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Friday took $1 million earmarked for a widely-ignored property tax rebate and used it to create a “Legal Protection Fund” for immigrants living in “anxiety and uncertainty” and threatened with deportation after the election of Donald Trump.
The mayor upped the ante in his immigration war of words with Trump by forging a partnership with the National Immigration Justice Center and challenging the private and philanthropic communities to join the effort and provide legal resources to immigrant families living in fear.
The city’s contribution will come from the $20 million set aside by the City Council to inoculate the mayor and aldermen from some of the political fallout from a record $588 million property tax increase.
With two days to go until the deadline, only 11,000 or seven percent of the 155,000 eligible homeowners had applied for the break, prompting Emanuel to extend the deadline until Dec. 30. Nearly $19 million remains unclaimed.
The $1 million will allow the NIJC, which is based in Chicago, and its law firms to consult and represent more than 3,000 additional people. According to the center, roughly 150,000 Chicago-area residents are not legally permanent U.S. residents. Thousands more are worried about their immigration status.
“We’re putting our money where our mouth is as the city of Chicago,” the mayor told an unrelated news conference Friday at Curie High School called to announce an expansion of the city’s largest-in-the-nation International Baccalaureate program.
“I want them to know that the city of Chicago — your children, you and your family — are safe, secure and supported. And we’re gonna put resources to ensuring that you’re safe, secure and supported. It builds on all of the other things we’ve done as a welcoming city.”
Access to legal services can have a “life-changing and sometimes life-saving” impact for immigrants and their families, according to Mary Meg, executive director of the National Immigrant Justice Center.
“Legal counsel ensures that immigrants … can defend their rights and live their lives here in safety and security and with a sense of control over their destinies.”
Rookie Ald. Carlos Ramirez-Rosa (35th) applauded Emanuel for adopting the “concrete” protections that he championed along with immigrant group to make certain Chicago “continue to be an immigrant-friendly city during these trying times.”
“Today’s announcement demonstrates that he is listening to our community,” Ramirez-Rosa was quoted as saying in an emailed statement.
But, Ramirez-Rosa questioned whether $1 million would be enough to assist “all Chicagoans in deportation proceedings, and those President-elect Trump is targeting.”
“I remain hopeful that we are on the right path, but we still have a lot of catch-up work to rival New York, Philadelphia and San Francisco’s immigration efforts,” the alderman said.
Trump campaigned on a promise to build a wall on the U.S. border with Mexico, target illegal immigrants and cut off federal funding to Chicago and other “sanctuary cities” where undocumented immigrants can access city services and live without fear of police harassment.
The president-elect has since said he plans to begin by immediately deporting as many as 3 million illegal immigrants with criminal records, then make a decision about the “terrific people” who account for the rest.
Emanuel said last month he doesn’t believe Trump actually will cut off federal funding to Chicago and other “sanctuary cities” because he will have “bigger fish to fry” as president. The mayor spoke from his experience as the first White House chief of staff under President Barack Obama.
“When you’re in the White House, it is incoming,” Emanuel said. “When they look at all of the things they want to get done and all of the battles — whether they’re ones they initiate or ones that will come to ’em — they will make a choice that this is not the battle they want to take on because they’ve got bigger fish to fry. Just mark my words.”
The mayor boldly predicted then that Trump would not pick an immigration fight with the nation’s major cities after an emotional debate on the Chicago City Council floor that moved him to tears.
It happened during debate on a resolution reaffirming the welcoming-city ordinance that codified Chicago’s standing as a sanctuary city, where undocumented immigrants can access city services and live without fear of police harassment.
After the meeting, Emanuel talked tough about what he believes Trump will and will not do. What Trump will not do, Emanuel declared, is pick a fight with Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Philadelphia and other sanctuary cities, not even with Republicans in control of both houses of Congress.
“I believe he will not threaten all of those cities,” the mayor said. “I don’t believe they’ll do it because that will mean every major city in the United States will be targeted, and that is not what an administration will do because that means the voices of Congress and the United States Senate, where there are Republicans with major cities that are sanctuary cities, will have to hurt the economic interests of those cities.”
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The Democrats are on the wrong side of this issue.
But you are right that this is just Republicans playing politics. They love cheap labor as much as the democrats, it's just unlike the dems they don't cloak their love of cheap labor in altruism....
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NYC depends on illegals, that goes for restaurants, cleaning, contruction and any other hard labor. but they do work their asses off, so i tip my hat off to them. they contribute to the economy just like any other US Citizen. at least there ain't racist rednecks in the city, you have to go upstate NY or Staten Island for them Trump supporters.
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Why not just give the work visas?
I don't understand why we are fighting for citizenship when a work visa would be a good compromise.
Democrats just want the votes so they fight for citizenship when that's not exactly necessary.
Meh, the cities, counties and states that support it's election results suggest otherwise.
What was it?:Can somebody explain to me why as a black man i should give a fukk about Sanctuary Cities?
I see the argument popping up again because Sessions vowed to deny funding.
I am not a Republican ( or Democrat ) but i honestly do not understand the Dems position on this.From my understanding they dont want to follow the law. They want to use federal funds to help illegal aliens. Am i correct?
If that is the case then I am against them also. You got Chicago vowing to fight this, and other cities..But aiyo fukk that! Take care of your citizens 1st.
Am i missing something? And i am coming for knowledge brehs. Not trying to son anyone or playing gotcha. Last year i asked a question about Voter Id laws because i did not see the big deal and some brehs gave me some insight i did not realize.
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The voting population that voted mostly Republican would beg to differ. .
The politicians (mainly the Democrats) want the population for votes but that doesn't mean the citizenry is behind it, hence Trump for President.
As well, a lot of immigrants don't even want citizenship, they just want to work and be left alone.