Saigon - 777 Resurrection (Discussion Thread)
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TheDarceKnight
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I tried to rep but it said to slow down lol. This is all facts.
I was working with Little Brother when they were on Atlantic at the same time as Saigon. LB and Saigon were both sort of self-contained, and didn't need much from Atlantic. Combined with neither sounding like what was trendy, and lots of re-staffing inside Atlantic's Hip-Hop division, they didn't know what to do with either act. Little Brother got lucky and was able to drop Minstrel Show, and Saigon got unlucky.
If GSNT dropped when it was supposed to, it would've been a real gem and ahead of its time. There were a few sample clearance issues too. They had to remake The Invitation, Better Way, and a couple others.
Little Brother and Saigon were both stuck in that in-between era. I don't know if Atlantic said this to Saigon, but I remember they told Little Brother that they knew they had fans online, but "
if only there was some way to measure how many fans or followers you truly have online" that they'd be more confident getting behind the album.They tried to link LB and Saigon. Saigon was supposed to be the last verse on the final track, but instead of rapping about how he had next (the topic of the song) his verse was about how gays spread AIDS and how he needed to be saved.
Another fun trivia fact (@old boy you said to tag you). Alchemist gave the Say Yes beat to Saigon for 100 dollars when Saigon got out of prison for the Rawkus Records 12" single. They worked a lot after that, but for GSNT Saigon didn't reach out to Al to even listen to any beats for the album. Al was a little bit annoyed at it, but they patched it up by the time the album actually hit shelves.
EDIT: JUST BLAZE YOU PROMISED BACK ON SOHH YOU'D DROP THE ORIGINAL INVITATION AND YOU DIDN'T!
I tried to rep but it said to slow down lol. This is all facts.
I was working with Little Brother when they were on Atlantic at the same time as Saigon. LB and Saigon were both sort of self-contained, and didn't need much from Atlantic. Combined with neither sounding like what was trendy, and lots of re-staffing inside Atlantic's Hip-Hop division, they didn't know what to do with either act. Little Brother got lucky and was able to drop Minstrel Show, and Saigon got unlucky.
If GSNT dropped when it was supposed to, it would've been a real gem and ahead of its time. There were a few sample clearance issues too. They had to remake The Invitation, Better Way, and a couple others.
Little Brother and Saigon were both stuck in that in-between era. I don't know if Atlantic said this to Saigon, but I remember they told Little Brother that they knew they had fans online, but "
They tried to link LB and Saigon. Saigon was supposed to be the last verse on the final track, but instead of rapping about how he had next (the topic of the song) his verse was about how gays spread AIDS and how he needed to be saved.
Another fun trivia fact (@old boy you said to tag you). Alchemist gave the Say Yes beat to Saigon for 100 dollars when Saigon got out of prison for the Rawkus Records 12" single. They worked a lot after that, but for GSNT Saigon didn't reach out to Al to even listen to any beats for the album. Al was a little bit annoyed at it, but they patched it up by the time the album actually hit shelves.
EDIT: JUST BLAZE YOU PROMISED BACK ON SOHH YOU'D DROP THE ORIGINAL INVITATION AND YOU DIDN'T!
I mean, he had Just doing the whole album and it was well known so not sure Alc shoulda been salty about that
I wasn’t on Sohh, but we definitley deserved that Invitation with the sample, it sounded fukking godlike in the GSNT snippets, the album one was nice, but sounded flat compared to the sample version
They kinda make everyone that way.
I tried to rep but it said to slow down lol. This is all facts.
I was working with Little Brother when they were on Atlantic at the same time as Saigon. LB and Saigon were both sort of self-contained, and didn't need much from Atlantic. Combined with neither sounding like what was trendy, and lots of re-staffing inside Atlantic's Hip-Hop division, they didn't know what to do with either act. Little Brother got lucky and was able to drop Minstrel Show, and Saigon got unlucky.
If GSNT dropped when it was supposed to, it would've been a real gem and ahead of its time. There were a few sample clearance issues too. They had to remake The Invitation, Better Way, and a couple others.
Little Brother and Saigon were both stuck in that in-between era. I don't know if Atlantic said this to Saigon, but I remember they told Little Brother that they knew they had fans online, but "
They tried to link LB and Saigon. Saigon was supposed to be the last verse on the final track, but instead of rapping about how he had next (the topic of the song) his verse was about how gays spread AIDS and how he needed to be saved.
Another fun trivia fact (@old boy you said to tag you). Alchemist gave the Say Yes beat to Saigon for 100 dollars when Saigon got out of prison for the Rawkus Records 12" single. They worked a lot after that, but for GSNT Saigon didn't reach out to Al to even listen to any beats for the album. Al was a little bit annoyed at it, but they patched it up by the time the album actually hit shelves.
EDIT: JUST BLAZE YOU PROMISED BACK ON SOHH YOU'D DROP THE ORIGINAL INVITATION AND YOU DIDN'T!
This is some cool info. Thanks. LOL @ Saigon making a verse about gay people spreading AIDS instead of the topic. Sounds just like something he would do.
TheDarceKnight
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He wasn’t that salty. I just think slightly annoyed. I probably heard an overblown story.
Did Just do all of it? I thought Kanye did the joint with Marsha Ambrosious and I know Buckwild did the Oh Yeah/Babies joint.
But you’re right. It was known that Just was doing pretty much all of it.
I think you’re right actually, but yeah Still heavily EP’d by Just
TheDarceKnight
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I should’ve posted it lol. 9th Wonder took the verse and made it into a concept joint by using a Snoop sample and a new Joe Scudda verse. Sai’s verse here is dope, but it just sounded weird on that LB joint.
TheDarceKnight
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No doubt. I just googled and Just still went in and has co-production credits on the only 3 beats he didn’t make outright.
This project was solid. I wish it was more than 20 minutes though. Production was decent. Saigon is rapping his ass off though.
TheDarceKnight
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I'll always love the sample on Middle Finger Song 
Just Blaze still flipped it the best, but 9th Wonder flipped it twice.
Rapsody, Tom Hardy, and D-Mal
Just Blaze still flipped it the best, but 9th Wonder flipped it twice.
Rapsody, Tom Hardy, and D-Mal
TheDarceKnight
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I bet Rosenberg was excited to hear this album and then was when he got dissed. Then he probably was 
when he thought it was over, and then 
got hammered again on the last verse.
when he got dissed. Then he probably was when he thought it was over, and then got hammered again on the last verse. 
The MF EffectSaigon still got it
And did they censor G Rap saying fakkits?
Strange because Saigon says it on the album and it's not edited.
I tried to rep but it said to slow down lol. This is all facts.
I was working with Little Brother when they were on Atlantic at the same time as Saigon. LB and Saigon were both sort of self-contained, and didn't need much from Atlantic. Combined with neither sounding like what was trendy, and lots of re-staffing inside Atlantic's Hip-Hop division, they didn't know what to do with either act. Little Brother got lucky and was able to drop Minstrel Show, and Saigon got unlucky.
If GSNT dropped when it was supposed to, it would've been a real gem and ahead of its time. There were a few sample clearance issues too. They had to remake The Invitation, Better Way, and a couple others.
Little Brother and Saigon were both stuck in that in-between era. I don't know if Atlantic said this to Saigon, but I remember they told Little Brother that they knew they had fans online, but "
They tried to link LB and Saigon. Saigon was supposed to be the last verse on the final track, but instead of rapping about how he had next (the topic of the song) his verse was about how gays spread AIDS and how he needed to be saved.
Another fun trivia fact (@old boy you said to tag you). Alchemist gave the Say Yes beat to Saigon for 100 dollars when Saigon got out of prison for the Rawkus Records 12" single. They worked a lot after that, but for GSNT Saigon didn't reach out to Al to even listen to any beats for the album. Al was a little bit annoyed at it, but they patched it up by the time the album actually hit shelves.
EDIT: JUST BLAZE YOU PROMISED BACK ON SOHH YOU'D DROP THE ORIGINAL INVITATION AND YOU DIDN'T!
That Sai verse story
That kind of goofy shyt sums up his career....too ignorant for conscious rap, too smart for thug rap. Dude was stuck in a weird place as an artist and just did a lot of dumb shyt.
I always wonder about Just and Al's relationship..i assume they're cool but i'm pretty sure Just jacked The Grimey Way on Bleek's Everything's A Go. I think there might have been another Just beat that dropped not long after an Al joint that had a very similar flip.
But Jusy stayed doing that shyt around that time...PSA and Stay Real....Lyrical Exercise and that Mega joint...forget the name. I know the saying goes you can't own no loops but the shyt always seemed a litle fishy to me.