Sacramento Kings flat out suck

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They SHOULD do the same thing every team should do when stuck in a situation that is obviously going nowhere: trade their best player and rebuild.
Sacramento has made the playoffs two times in the last 18 years, that’s gonna be a tough sell for everyone, i see then shuffling pieces to just try and get in.
 

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its not just a personnel problem. they're *trying* to do dumb shyt and shocked when it doesn't work

they'll be down 10, trying to come back in the first and all of their possessions to chip away at the lead will be long winded ass setups to get derozan the first look. then some weird sabonis action where he's not an immediate threat to score either. then whatever guard can make shyt happen with what's left.

i like mike brown - but they are playing like the rest of the league will go back in time and run bs along with them.
 

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They peaked as a team a few years ago and the Derozan move was a desperation one. It doesn't help that multiple players on that team have regressed whether that's due to Derozan or not.

None of those dudes are #1 option on a championship team. If you can get multiple assets in return over paying Fox the max, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Fox showed he’s a number 1 option type of player in their big games. Their problems stem from the fact that his number 2 option can only go one way in the post and won’t shoot the mid range shots he gets so one you cut off the DHO action and give him the wide open middy he doesn’t know what to do.

Moreover, all of their “shooters” are shooting terribly this year and Derozan operates form the same spots that Fox likes. It’s just a bad fit.
 

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Horrible ass fit for Derozan. Sabonis and Fox can’t shoot. Murray is a complete disappointment after his rookie season. Does Ellis still start also? I didn’t understand that signing at all
Did this dumbass say Fox can’t shoot? How do you confidently type that shyt and then ask if Ellis starts? Why even give an opinion if you don’t know what you’re talking about. And why are you talking like the team should be built around Derozan instead of the two younger all stars? It’s him who hasn’t adapted his game around them.
 

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I wish all those folks complaining about too many 3s would watch some Kings games to see what happens to the floor spacing when a team doesn’t have enough 3-pt shooting. DeRozan wastes far too many possessions stopping the ball, shooting midrange shots, that it stunts Sac’s ability to maximize runs.

This team would be a lot better in a previous era when teams played in a similar manner. But it just can’t compete today.
I don’t see the argument. No one said shooting isn’t valuable. They have multiple contributors shooting below league average from 3 or not shooting the wide open 3 at all. Derozan refuses to shoot even corner 3s, which is forcing Fox to put up uncharacteristic wild ass 3s to compensate and try to space them out. He needs to be traded for a PF that can rebound and shoot. They might as well go make that Kyle Kuzma deal. And Monk also isn’t good enough defensively to start and it’s a panic move.
 

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I don’t see the argument. No one said shooting isn’t valuable. They have multiple contributors shooting below league average from 3 or not shooting the wide open 3 at all. Derozan refuses to shoot even corner 3s, which is forcing Fox to put up uncharacteristic wild ass 3s to compensate and try to space them out. He needs to be traded for a PF that can rebound and shoot. They might as well go make that Kyle Kuzma deal. And Monk also isn’t good enough defensively to start and it’s a panic move.
I'd rather roll the dice with Jerami Grant than Kuzma. :picard:

I'd rather have John Collins than both. :ehh:
 

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Did this dumbass say Fox can’t shoot? How do you confidently type that shyt and then ask if Ellis starts? Why even give an opinion if you don’t know what you’re talking about. And why are you talking like the team should be built around Derozan instead of the two younger all stars? It’s him who hasn’t adapted his game around them.
Calm down you freak. Fox is a fukking athletic slasher. He’s not a shooter. Currently at 33% from 3 this year. Idk where you got the idea that I said they should build around Derozan. I said it was a bad signing. Barnes fit their team structure much better(3 and D wing) You replace that with an aging wing who doesn’t shoot threes and takes away space from Fox and Sabonis
 

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There’s something weird about derozan that I can’t pinpoint cause I rarely watch his teams

It’s almost like he’s only good for his own 20-25 points with good efficiency but adds nothing else. Is it lack of movement without the ball, weak defense, lack of leadership despite being like 36, what is it?
back in the day superstars dangerous on both ends of the court.
And people will try to tell you its bs rules were different whatever. but no they were actually a factor on both ends.
25 pts means nothing if the other team is getting their buckets too.
.Doesn't mean you need to be a lockdown defender, but just forceing 3 or 4 turnovers or defensive stops a game is enough to make that 25 count.
When you get no blocks in most of your games and rarely get more than 1 steal. You need to find other ways to end defensives possessions. Shane battier used to force difficult shots for example.
 
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