im using it because who started the war?
Incredible exercise in missing the point.
you are continually misframing this to stick to some weird nonapplicable non-violence vibrational energy lol - not even as a misunderstanding but as a personal thing you need to feel better talking down to people
I don't even understand that sentence, but considering the things that have been said to me, claiming that I'm the one guilty of talking down to people is rich.
Anyone who has expressed the slightest desire to aim for anything other than a total war response has been subjected to the most vile personal and character attacks, even if they aren't replying to anyone else, even if they aren't even in the thread. There's 40-page HL thread (eventually got bushed) that was devoted entirely to talking shyt about people who hope a peace treaty will be possible. Just in the last few pages y'all have talked all sorts of trash and made the most condescending, dismissive remarks to my positions without even engaging in any of them serious, just believing that because I have a different position, it's wrong, and you don't think you need to research it at all to prove that.
I've never taken the easy way out on these principles. I argue them even in the difficult cases, and I provide background and concrete support for my arguments. If someone is going to just trash my opinions and trash me as a person without even knowing what I'm talking about, then yeah, I'm going to speak as if I don't have a great deal of respect for their opinions on the subject.
It was the only link you provided in support of your post....
The link to the manual is in that paper (dead now since it is 7 years old), but why would I link the manual itself considering it's written in Lithuanian?
I was just pointing out that the fact you thought that was the manual itself was clear proof you didn't read it.
And yeah all I did was a word search and give it a cursory glance because that was all that was needed show how you were playing with words that mean two very different things given the context of the conversation.
Yeah, no one could have read that shyt and thought it was irrelevant, considering that he's literally talking about how Lithuania's preparation for Russian invasion was directly relevant to combatting Russia in Ukraine and why Ukraine's military response as of 2015 was going to be counterproductive and lead to more suffering for their population. Which, looking back in hindsight from 2022, is pretty damn prescient but I doubt you'll feel the same way since you give the impression that Putin taking a huge L is more important than the tremendous suffering the Ukrainians have undergone since then. If they had chosen the route he suggests at the time he suggested it then there is significant potential (no certainties in history but the view is obvious) that the strength of pro-Kiev sentiment in Donbas likely would have been far stronger, the rebel movement would have gotten far less support, eastern Ukraine would have been subjected to far fewer casualties 2014-2021, and the Russian pretext for invasion never would have emerged at all. But you aren't even willing to consider that possibility, because the running ideology here is that violence is the only legitimate response to violence and nothing else could work equally well or better.
What would be the response of a non-violence advocate to this development?
The exact same as the response to the rest of the conflict - it doesn't change the underlying situation in any meaningful way from that perspective, especially considering they're likely strays. The book and the two links I already laid out to the previous question would be the starting point.
What's the warmonger response....use 2 deaths (in a war of tens of thousands of deaths) to escalate it to an even broader, more deadly conflict and ensure that additional civilian populations are swept up into the suffering?
I've put off way too much work to type out all these responses, this is my last comment and I'm going to sleep. Gonna pray this doesn't expand even worse and become an even greater conflict; which, if it does happen, I'm sure you'll attribute to them not having warred hard enough, as opposed to being the natural consequence of a war response.
