I agree with Chomsky on some things but this ain't it.
Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)
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I agree with Chomsky on some things but this ain't it.
Json
Superstar
Are you for real? It doesn’t take 30 years to take one country.
Like we all understand the underlining racism involved in why Europe and America walk all over Africa, Latin America, and the Middle East in foreign policy.
But let’s be real here. If NATO were the big bad boogeyman wouldn’t they have just used the excuse of Georgia, Crimea, and now Ukraine to just take Russia? Instead of make gas deals and economic ties that keep Putin and friends in power?
What’s the actual plan from NATO for aggression?
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GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
They'll take over parts of Ukraine. Sanctions will be imposed, Russia will suffer economically, Putin and Co. will blame the west for Russian troubles, sanctions regime will be weakened or circumvented so zero chance it will affect Russian behavior.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
This video is dogshyt. Ridiculously bad faith arguing and motivated reasoning. Vaush is following the Hitchens leftist-to-Neocon pipeline.
Json
Superstar
That could have been done 30 years ago. The region was destabilized after the fall. Your post makes zero sense in the context of Russia.
America and Europe went in militarily without hesitation in those countries. They are literally propping up Putin and the oligarchs.
And in NATO, there are only three European countries that could economically absorb Russia. England and France are geographical disadvantage and Germany is already the most influential without the liability of annexing Russia.
The underling racism that those brown and black people are too stupid to understand the greatness of democracy and must be imposed on them. They give fellow white man Putin every opportunity as he gets crazier and crazier.
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how would you have justified expanding the anti-USSR pact right after their empire collapsed?
seems like a pretty good way to destabilize a region by not offering any economic future. as well as helping eventually sell the western corporations that take over industry as a good thing, as they're not run by corrupt oligarchs, ya know? things don't happen over night. You're not selling IMF loans and Western corporate hegemony to people raised and educated in Soviet Russia. Do you see how silly that is?
Json
Superstar
The USSR destablized on its own. American and Europe didn’t destabilize it.
The opportunity the place western corporate interest is then. And you don’t need to get them under your thumb with IMF loans. You just need a puppet government which is what western countries do to make populations think your decisions are theirs.
But like isai. They won’t treat white people the way they do these poor brown and black people.
Again. I agree with your thesis. But all the opportunities to intact it passed by decades ago. That’s not what Europe/ US have been doing cause they don’t want responsibility for Russian issues.
I'm surprised it took this long
Wait till Putin wants to "connect" to Kaliningrad
Act like you got some fukking nuts my dude.This video is dogshyt. Ridiculously bad faith arguing and motivated reasoning. Vaush is following the Hitchens leftist-to-Neocon pipeline.
The world doesn't stop spinning when you criticize the United States.
Yall can't keep calling people neocons for shyts and giggles when real shyt is at play.
alright we're done here. Have a great day
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
That's completely reasonable if we ignore all other factors of why we're here.
Putin is a hardcore nationalist who has made it no secret that his personal best case scenario would be the reformation of the Soviet Union. Its that possibility and fear that has an independent and sovereign Ukraine reaching for NATO. If Ukraine chose neutrality, NATO would care less, Russia on the other hand would not. This is why we'll continue to see NATO and Russia tow the line of provocation to force the other to jump first.
I don't believe Putin is looking at a full scale invasion of Ukraine because it gets him more of what he doesn't want according to Chomksy. We'll see incursions/annexations and more tough talk from the West along with sanctions that exclude the Russian energy sector. NATO will continue to shrug at Zelensky because by their own rules he'll be even more ineligible for NATO membership and he'll be left with the legacy defining decision to violate the Ukrainian constitution and drop the quest for NATO membership to back the Russian military down or decide to go full YOLO.
Peace.
You're about to see what the world saw when the USSR invaded Hungary. Sheer brutality.
Tired of your losers not defending shyt.