Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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They are out of touch with the average American voter. They don't get it. People are not wealthy like them.
So what is your alternative?

Everyone gets hurt in a war between higher tier economies. That's why they're motivated not to do so.

Putin decided to break the order. Besides putting boots on the ground, I don't see what other methods can be used to punish him.

Can't have your cake and eat it too. :francis:
 

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China has already claimed HK without a peep from the West...

Where are you getting this rhetoric ?
I don't get what you mean, which rhetoric ?
As @theworldismine13 said, they have agreements with the UK : Sino-British Joint Declaration - Wikipedia

China basically just wants to waive the 50 year period and swallow HK now but technically HK is already Chinese. China just tired of waiting and wants it now.
 

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people have lost interest already

russia has stalled and no one wants a no fly zone.

Thats not really true. Action on the ground has slowed down because of the cease fires to allow evacuees to flee certain areas, regrouping of resources, the mud season, and counter measures taken by the Ukranians (blowing up bridges, flooding valleys, etc.). This is what war looks like, constant reassessment and readjustment to the battlefield, planes aren't flying nonstop sorties (fuel & pilot considerations) and there aren't fire fights and constant shelling without purpose (munitions & personnel considerations).

Your war porn, twitter analysis and updates will be back in full swing on the next major offensive against strategic targets.
 

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china got back HK through a treaty, taiwan is completely different, the chances of them attacking Taiwan went down a whole lot

The Hong Kong security laws happened recently - I'm not talking about Thatcher and Deng Xiaoping

They will wait until they are strong and big enough... there was never any planned attack against Taiwan
 
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So what is your alternative?

Everyone gets hurt in a war between higher tier economies. That's why they're motivated not to do so.

Putin decided to break the order. Besides putting boots on the ground, I don't see what other methods can be used to punish him.

Can't have your cake and eat it too. :francis:
Punish a dictator at the expense of your own citizens? American citizens have suffered enough. 2 years of covid, inflation, trash housing market, etc.

You really think average voters gonna say "Yeah I'm going to have to pay more but Putin must be stopped". Only those really invested in global politics might care enough. Most people don't give a damn about global politics. They care more about their self-interest.

Its easy for a US Senator to say something that dumb because he's rich. Average Americans are trying to make the most of a bad situation already.
 
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