OfTheCross
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the alternative is Russia can gtfo of a country they invaded for no real reason and give back Crimea
Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)
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Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
Yeah, the 2nd one definitely ain't happening
They got like 3+ missiles per Russian tank in Ukraine 
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The_Unchosen_One
Superstar
They’ve changed the reason why they invaded fukking 300 times already…
the economy is about to collapse if this goes another week and they know it… Kyiv has flooded land around Kyiv making it impossible for tanks to go through so they know they can’t attack or surround Kyiv…
If ya let Putin just take what he wants… he’s gonna do it again..
This doesn’t hold Putin responsible for all the people he’s killed
I was actually thinking the samebut Ukraine probably ain't going to budget
Russia came into their house, ate their food, shat on the bed, shot the dog, then burned the house down. No negotiation begins without what Russia plans to do in terms of restitution.
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[Something Cool]
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Why would anyone agree to demilitarization after the shyt Russia just pulled? You can’t trust them. That’s how I interpreted “cease military action” anyway. A neutrality clause would be more reasonable. That would cover two of Russia’s points and you can still marshal a military to defend yourself if necessary. Perhaps I’m just interpreting it incorrectly.
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Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
U talkin big for someone that don't have to live there.
The_Unchosen_One
Superstar
They were neutral...
fukk being neutral if i'm Ukraine... nobody is coming to help when Russia pulls this shyt... I'm straight up telling Russia that they are joining NATO
i think by “bloc” russia doesnt just mean NATO but is also referring to things like the EU. remember, maidan happened because yanukovytch refused to sign an agreement with closer relations with the EUI was actually thinking the same
politically i dont see how ukraine would be able to govern crimea again. the russian population in there particularly seems like it would be a huge potential fifth column. really sad too because the crimean tatars are getting completely fukked in russia rnDo you take the deal and put a stop to the fighting or do you show Putin you'll fight against any aggression shown towards border states?
Outside of maybe #3 I don't know if I'd agree to any of these.
- Recognize Crimea as Russian
- Recognize Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states
Very unreasonable
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
Hasn't Russia already took Crimea? Thats been gone.
You would accede to those demands and go back to the Rubble?
I suppose I am talking big because my people got enslaved, trampled on and got no reasonable restitution.
We see the effects of that to this day.
Justice is important. Russia needs to rebuild what they destroyed.
[Something Cool]
Not a Well-Known Member
They were neutral...
fukk being neutral if i'm Ukraine... nobody is coming to help when Russia pulls this shyt... I'm straight up telling Russia that they are joining NATO
Of course, sure they were technically neutral, but the writing was on the wall that Ukraine wanted to become more integrated in the Western economic system. They were going to have American oil companies set up shop to exploit the new gas reserves found in Crimea, which would put them in direct competition with Russia, plus they currently control the gas lines needed to send energy to Europe and was taxing Russia for it.
Putin’s goal was putting a stop to any Westernization of Ukraine. Codifying this is a different thing then just presuming neutrality. But it’s all bullshyt I guess, you’re dealing with Russia here.
So maybe calling Russia’s bluff is the thing to do? That’s fukkin dangerous, Putin’s painted himself in a corner.
Also, would NATO even let them in at this point? They could have decades ago, Ukraine started the framework process back in 1994.
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