Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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Russia isn't "losing" the war... some posters viewing that too literal. They lost because they completely failed the objective.. economy is ruined.. and this will drag on for years.

Exactly.

In a tactical/operational sense, they will probably prevail.

But in terms of grand strategy, they've fukked themselves for decades to come, even generations.

Russian military power was better as a threat, a stick to dangle over the heads of nervous Eastern European regimes. Now what? Russia has lost more men in a week than America did in 20 years of global conflict. NATO hegemony has been solidified. European neutrality is a thing of the past. They've gained a ungovernable neighbor on their southern border, with the potential for an insurgency that could pump out terrorists who look exactly like the Russians do and speak the same language.
 

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Exactly.

In a tactical/operational sense, they will probably prevail.

But in terms of grand strategy, they've fukked themselves for decades to come, even generations.

Russian military power was better as a threat, a stick to dangle over the heads of nervous Eastern European regimes. Now what? Russia has lost more men in a week than America did in 20 years of global conflict. NATO hegemony has been solidified. European neutrality is a thing of the past. They've gained a ungovernable neighbor on their southern border, with the potential for an insurgency that could pump out terrorists who look exactly like the Russians do and speak the same language.

"B-b-but. It's too early to say if they've lost or won."
 
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