Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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Honestly, now is the time for the Caucasus regions to sprint for independence...

If you're a Russian breakaway region...the clock is ticking...

If we’re being honest here you’re right. The situation is ripe for it imo. Whether it happens or not is another question. Not sure they’d break out in open conflict against Russia right now even in the midst of their gaffle.
 
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shyt like this worries the fukk outta me…


I also think Putin is in so far of a corner he is actually gonna pull the trigger on a nuke…this whole situation has destroyed his reputation around the world…

I do worry about this. His strongman act isn't just an act. You know he's humiliated right now that the Russian military is getting worked by a smaller country and a bunch of street combatants with Molotovs.

He'd definitely do something like use a nuke on Ukraine because he wants to reassert his dominance even when it would otherwise be CRAZY to do (for reasons of escalation, for reasons that Russia would destroy farmland that they'd want to use otherwise, etc.).
 

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This is proof that Vlad bought a one way ticket. You can speculate on if it’s health related or sheer madness but this is starting to look like Custard’s last stand. Everyone on earth knows that his removal is the simplest fix for all of this, most aren’t willing to admit it out loud yet.
Anyone says that put loud. Instant propaganda for Putin
 

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Best scenario is that the oligarchs and military heads decide that they need to get Putin out of the paint now and he ends up having a "heart attack" in a backroom that, weirdly enough, is filled with fresh bullet holes.

Folks keep insinuating that the sanctions, as well as the poor morale among the military, would spur a close response, but I'm sure this man has a kill-switch.

His military officials look extremely uncomfortable, and if this all fails, they could be tried in an international court for war crimes. One of their missiles hit a children's hospital.
 

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I do worry about this. His strongman act isn't just an act. You know he's humiliated right now that the Russian military is getting worked by a smaller country and a bunch of street combatants with Molotovs.

He'd definitely do something like use a nuke on Ukraine because he wants to reassert his dominance even when it would otherwise be CRAZY to do (for reasons of escalation, for reasons that Russia would destroy farmland that they'd want to use otherwise, etc.).

He'd probably drop the nuke on the ethnic ukrainian side that was never gonna fukk with him anyways and then just annex the novorossiyan part to save face
 

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This is why it feels like a mistake on Putin's part. I thought he would stop at Donetsk, basically recognize them as a breakaway state, and end there, but he went in on a full-scale war and is now an international pariah. He even has China being openly disinterested with his little foray into Ukraine.

I think the point of this now was to prevent Ukraine running toward Europe faster by taking Kyiv and installing a puppet president so that he has it and Belarus on his Western border acting as a buffer, but all it's going to end up doing is cleaving Europe closer together and pushing countries toward joining the EU.

Long-term, do we think that this is the trigger for a federalized Europe? I think the talk about raising an EU military is going to get serious after this, at least.
The issue is he lost the advantage of shock and awe. American intelligence was pushing the facts of this invasion so long people were able to make rational decisions about it. Also, yes I could see a federalized EU army coming out of this. The real issue with NATO is Trump showed that if a US president is inclined enough, NATO and European defense can be defunded. I think Russia is being recasted in the role of USSR but not based on communism but authoritarianism and it’s happening quickly because behind the scenes the world was prepared for this attack. Plus quite honestly, a lot of countries are basically fed up with putin after they pulled that shyt with Trump. On an international level Putin misread the room completely and didn’t realize how easy it would be for everyone to say “fukk you”.

Flipside Europe and to a lesser degree (and off topic) maybe Japan getting armies again shows how the US has permanently lost its global hegemony. A lot of what we are seeing now started 20 years ago. Including Putin feeling like he can just do a full force invasion on a country on false pretenses.
 

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wake up the sleeping giant brehs :heh:

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People who are engaging in that are not worth responding to. There's a whole board to discuss how sh-t the U.S. is.. they can discuss U.S. imperialism elsewhere.

This thread is on this conflict and shouldn't be muddied. People who want to muddy topics have ulterior motives..
:russ: I feel like some people are taking advantage of the situation to lay into some personal long held grievances.
 
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Turkey is going to block Russian access to the Black Sea.

Turkey’s foreign ministry has signalled that it intends to block Russian warships from passing through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits that lead to the Black Sea, a shift in Turkey’s formerly neutral position where officials underlined alliances with both Russia and Ukraine.

“We came to the conclusion that the situation in Ukraine has turned into a war,” said Turkish foreign minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu. “We will apply the Montreux provisions transparently.”

Turkey controls both straits under the Montreux convention, granting it the power to block the passage of Russian and Ukrainian warships, providing they are not returning to their permanent bases in the Black Sea.

The convention means the straits can be blocked if a conflict meets the definition of a war.

The blocking will likely affect a number of Russian vessels currently in the Mediterranean Sea, including submarines and frigates, some of which belong to Black Sea fleets. A block means that Russian warships will not be able to transit the straits to either provide reinforcements to existing forces or to leave and return in order to assist forces in their invasion of Ukraine.

Turkish maritime analyst Yörük Isik pointed to satellite imagery showing at least 16 vessels in the Mediterranean. “What we see are 16 ships, some of them are Black Sea fleet ships. They might have some additional assets including replenishment tankers or small patrol crafts near Tartus but these are the most meaningful assets,” he said.

Çavuşoğlu’s remarks about the closure of the straits also signalled a shift in Turkish policy that until now has carefully tried to balance its NATO commitments and alliance with Ukraine in tandem with its energy and security dependency on Russia.

Turkey’s position has shifted rapidly over the weekend, including remarks earlier today from president Erdogan’s chief advisor Ibrahim Kalin, who said “we will continue our efforts to help the people of Ukraine and end bloodshed in this unjust and unlawful war.” Until now, Turkish officials had chosen their words carefully, primarily using terms such as “military operation.”

Turkey’s move to close the straits is a signal that its current foreign policy is prioritising Europe and its NATO commitments over its long-term ties to Russia.

“Turkey has a dependency on Russia, not only on energy like some European countries, but also their security situation. There must be fears within the authority that Russia could green-light an attack by the [Syrian] regime on Idlib,” said Ülgen, referring to province in northern Syria controlled by opposition forces including jihadists, with a Turkish presence to deter Russian and Syrian attacks.

Really worried that Putin is going to do some wild shyt now. Let's hope those talks produce a cease-fire and further talks before Putin goes crazy over looking weak and having that worldwide pariah status.
 
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