Just don't see the Russians invading 
Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)
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You basically saying which flavor of Satan do I want? American hegemony is better than European colonialism?
Unfortunately that's what I'm saying. Look at how France does African countries internationally RIGHT NOW and African and Muslim immigrants RIGHT NOW. As marginalized as minorites in America are, Black Americans and Latinos and Asians in this country have ALOT more power politically and voice than Black Africans, West Indians and North African Arabs in Europe.
Ive been to Europe, the only reason those cacs treated me nicely was because of my plugs out there and the American dollars I came through with so I wasn't a bum out there. I legitimately went through more racist micro and macro aggressions in an 8 month period over there than practically my whole life in the US. They are just starting to get bold here, they BEEN bold over there.
The US is still a demon that caused bloodshed and needless interventions for the sake of getting their pockets fat all over North and South America but the Russians and Chinese are a different breed. Better the devil you know. Btw I'm speaking in realist terms, it's not that I fukking want or agree with the US being the dikkhead bully on the block but I would never want any European or Asian power to set up shop on this side of the world. Like how Chinese employers be beating on Africans with impunity fukk that shyt bro, could you picture that coming to a city like Detroit? Hell nah
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TBF though, the US locks up people in Detroit and other communities instead of beating them.
Neither are good.
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That is one of the main reasons. He didn't set out to "help Trump". He set out to help "anyone other than Hillary Clinton". This shyt was years in the making.
Why Putin hates Hillary
I'll throw in this piece from 2014 too. Comical shyt. Shout out to 88
The Irony of Clinton's Comparison of Putin to Hitler
No neither are, but imagine an America that ends up being a puppet state of the PRC in 60 years. At least right now you could force America to the table to negotiate when they do out of pocket shyt to the domestic population, like the conversation around gun control, police reform, the drug war, etc. Even tho alot of those proposals have failed due to Republican fukkery, at least they were brought up and discussed, and they can continue to be fought for until there is either a win or a compromise. Thats not happening in authoritarian states. They just gave over 500 16 year olds sentences of 30 years and up for manifesting on the July 11th protests in Havana, I just came back from there and saw the shyt with my own two eyes. And Havana is a crumbling cake walk compared to Beijing and Moscow. I
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The problem with these conversations is that its always, "look at what they are doing," instead of imagining something different. No one looks at China and Russia as model societies. Its more like, "hey something else is out there, let's try that."
The US/Capitalism has killed our imagination of possibilities.
I don't believe in Capitalism or Socialism fully like that, I honestly think mixed economies are the only way forward with the most equity. But even then authoritarianism has always been the issue. On paper Socialism is GOAT and when you look at the Nordic models you think "fukk maybe we should try that." But we fail to take into account the cultural history and leanings of some of these places. Russia has been, and always will be, an expansionist power. Since the time of the Kievan Rus through Imperial Russia and the Soviet Union til now. That's what they do. So is China, China invaded and holds Tibet illegally, and they still want to reunify with Taiwan and if you let them they will set up zones of Chinese power and influence all over the world from the South China Sea to the Korea's to Central Asia to Africa and South America. America is an expansionist power as well, we know from Manifest Destiny to the Spanish American War and all the Global interventions they've committed. These three cannot and will not coexist peacefully. So if I have to make a choice between them, I'm gonna pick America cause I live here, and on top of that, I know for a fact already that you can bring racist cacs to the table and negotiate through sustained pressure because it's happened in the past. Try negotiating civil rights and racial equality with the Kremlin or Xi and see how that shyt goes. They are culturally authoritarian in the East that's how they get down. The West, including parts of post colonial Africa, has at least tasted Democracy. Not to be insensitive to anybody but these are two countries that are both LITERALLY descended from the Mongols. We could do something different here but it would be best to do something that has nothing to do with what they got going on over there
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I didn't say anything about believing in one system or another, my point is this is not a dichotomy. There are not only two ways. That is what I am saying. These convos are often only framed as this or that.
In the modern era thats all we really got tho, right or left or somewhere in between. We havent come up with a new way of doing things yet thats been implemented successfully
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Which is why I said the US/Capitalism has killed our imaginations.
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It's too many differing cultures and races in America for that to work. I don't see too many conservative white people voting for something that would benefit a poor black person.