With friends like Turkey in NATO, do you need any enemies in NATO?
Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)
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With friends like Turkey in NATO, do you need any enemies in NATO?
yup, all future and past communication can assumed to be compromised until this is settled.
lots of parties should be scared about leaks right now. individual actors can exploit this for their own gain as well.
Pringles has been cutting WWE promos for months and even told everyone that he was packing up and taking Wagner out of Ukraine. Where did they think he was going to go?
The Russian air force has been a non factor thus far. I'm willing to bet that Wagner has some ground to air missiles as well. Word to the
Russia: Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin calls halt to Moscow advance
Yevgeny Prigozhin agrees to stop his troops' march on Moscow and move to Belarus, in a sudden climb down.www.bbc.com
Rostov on Don to Moscow is 1080 km according to Google Maps. That's a whole lot of distance to cross without air support though.
Mujahideen.
And then you post this.
repped/dapped/giggledRussia stumbling like a Mortal Kombat character with “FINISH HIM” flashing above its head and you want to sit back?
Couldn’t be me.
Imagine waking up and there's a war going on outside no one is safe from...
Straight up promo cuts.He had 80k troops under his command die in bakhmut. That could do something to a man
If you include the Ukrainians he's killed, he's probably seen a quarter million people die in the past couple years. That could turn anyone to a mad man...
Shoiguuuuuuuu.... gerasimooooooooooov....
Remember that video lol
And here you go...
Ok, roll with me on this. Imagine I have two cancers in my body. I'm obviously
about this. But then one cancer starts eating the other one. Now i'm still 
but on the other hand i'm also a little 
at the turn of events. Of course the remaining cancer is still 
and need to be dealt with.I seriously doubt that NATO would arm Wagner...right?
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It's been known indeed that Putin's likely successors have been known to be more hawkish indeed. But I think it's fine to root for Prigozhin right now as long as he targets Russian military but I don't think alybody forgot his brutality. As you said, enemy of my enemy...
I would say it's a good news overall for Ukraine. On the short term, it'll likely disrupt RU forces on the field and Ukraine could take advantage of that. If they can pierce an axis towards Melitopol during this coup attempt, this could be gold. RU morale on the field can't be great after this news, it's a weakness they can exploit.
On the long term, even if Prigozhin manages to beat the Kadyrovites and Putin loyalists, which is a huge if, you really think Russia as a country can hold after this coup ? And if Wagner loses, what about all those mercs inside the country ? Either way, Russia will have to deal with the current mess for the next couple of months potentially.
There's no way they can focus on both internal and external fronts at the same time and they'll likely protect Moscow than gains in Ukraine so IMO, this is the best news Ukraine has had since february 2022 IMO.
Another one of the great Ls of our higher learning all stars was not so subtly rooting for Russia
Only one way to find outWould this fukk up inflation even more world wide or is it good
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I agree that short term this is great for Ukraine. The Russian Army will be split between a two front war now. They will also be splintered between factions loyal to Russia and those loyal to Wagner and those that favor a change of leadership. Morale will be mixed IMO. If they think Prigozhin is a better leader to fight Ukraine, morale may actually be boosted because now they will think they have a real chance to win the war.
Its way to early to tell what the ramifications would be with a Wagner win or loss. It really can go either way because Putin has a lot of love but even those that love him hate the corruption so it'll depend on what kind of system Wagner brings in if they win.
12k troops may have just defected lol
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Dictators yeah. But this isn’t dictator. Wagner dude hasn’t expressed any desire to lead a politically strong Russia. He’s just a hired gun.
It does matter. Coups don’t succeed if the military doesn’t back it. Citizens make up the military. if he accidentally undermines belief in Russian power by showing up Putin, all those Allies are going to abandon him.Wagner ain’t winning the war alone. Russia ain’t winning the war alone.
Russia is only still a fight because of Putin. The lack of weapons and supplies is only being addressed because Putin is playing the political game of getting China and Iran to supply him. If China pulls out, it doesn’t matter who is in charge.
This war has gone past the point of Russia being able to go it alone.
Fighterbomber: "Wagner has speed, it's moving through unsecured areas, our generals are unable to respond:
"The most basic and most powerful weapon that Wagner has is speed.
While our fathers-commanders decide where to strike, the column is already a hundred kilometers to the north, demolishing ridiculous cars with sand and other keeper tapes.
There are no mines on the roads, bridges are open, no orders have been brought to a bunch of units at all, and so on. It is clear that in a couple of days the commanders will tighten up, but Wagner will not wait for this moment.
The inertia of our generals, of course, was taken into account by Wagner in their plan.
And yes, I keep forgetting to say. If you think that I am for one of the parties, you are mistaken. I know perfectly well that both sides are absolutely matched for each other. Bellends on both sides. And they equally give a fukk about our problems. I am for Russia, and only for it.
But today there is no choice. Today, everyone who fights against our army is our enemy. The only defense and support of our country is our army and navy. And the enemy must be destroyed.
And after the victory, we will reward everyone according to their merits."
"The most basic and most powerful weapon that Wagner has is speed.
While our fathers-commanders decide where to strike, the column is already a hundred kilometers to the north, demolishing ridiculous cars with sand and other keeper tapes.
There are no mines on the roads, bridges are open, no orders have been brought to a bunch of units at all, and so on. It is clear that in a couple of days the commanders will tighten up, but Wagner will not wait for this moment.
The inertia of our generals, of course, was taken into account by Wagner in their plan.
And yes, I keep forgetting to say. If you think that I am for one of the parties, you are mistaken. I know perfectly well that both sides are absolutely matched for each other. Bellends on both sides. And they equally give a fukk about our problems. I am for Russia, and only for it.
But today there is no choice. Today, everyone who fights against our army is our enemy. The only defense and support of our country is our army and navy. And the enemy must be destroyed.
And after the victory, we will reward everyone according to their merits."
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Ukraine better take those fancy new German tanks to Crimea and get it poppin.
Because if Pringles gets control of Russia and turns his attention back to Ukraine, Zels about to have a long, long
day.
Because if Pringles gets control of Russia and turns his attention back to Ukraine, Zels about to have a long, long
day.