Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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Just curious, are you emotionally reacting to each headline and event in real time? Do you think every event is an unstoppable, momentous, push towards near instantaneous Triumph?

Of course not. Matter fact I’ve been one of the more level headed posters in this thread not jumping for joy at every piece of propaganda

But facts are facts. Russians are raining artillery non stop. I have several telegram channels for both sides I’d be more than happy to share.

Momentum is momentum brother. Ukraine had 8 years and the backing of NATO to prepare a lot of these defenses and they’re falling rapidly. Doesn’t mean that Ukraine is out the game for sure, but they’re losing a lot of experienced soldiers and equipment, both of which aren’t getting replaced fast enough
 

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Of course not. Matter fact I’ve been one of the more level headed posters in this thread not jumping for joy at every piece of propaganda

But facts are facts. Russians are raining artillery non stop. I have several telegram channels for both sides I’d be more than happy to share.

Momentum is momentum brother. Ukraine had 8 years and the backing of NATO to prepare a lot of these defenses and they’re falling rapidly. Doesn’t mean that Ukraine is out the game for sure, but they’re losing a lot of experienced soldiers and equipment, both of which aren’t getting replaced fast enough
“facts” are useless without context. And are can be used to pull the emotional heartstrings of those who have their mind set one thing. Hamburger hill was viewed as a victory and turning point. It meant nothing in the larger scheme. People said “but we won at Ap Bia, how is the war still going on?”. The original Tet offensive was viewed as a Vietnamese victory but their forces, a combination of NVA/Vietcong/Chinese were almost completely destroyed. People were saying “it’s all over, Tet was loud”.

You have an extremely skewed and incorrect view of what happened the last 8 years. NATO had and wanted nothing to do with helping Ukraine until a US president, with just enough audacity to call Putin on his bluff; was in office.

Fact is your mindset and unwillingness to unlearn myths about Russian “strength” would have you calling for an end to the entire Allied Europe offensive because Germany pushed their shyt in at North Africa. You would have called it quits when you saw an Italian/German video compilation of of the 36th infantry division failing to cross the wrong river and having to 2 of its regiments washed, or 3rd ID being trapped on the beach under Monte Cassino. What about market Garden or the Ardennes and Belgium?

Russia struggling for over a month to take a few miles while Ukraine is pushing 25-30 elsewhere isn’t winning momentum. It’s just like I said before, they’re robbed their southern defense to take a city that won’t help them take anything in the north or east. Now they’re going to have to thin that defense or further offense (if they decide to try to keep pushing across open ground) to contain the losses they’re taking elsewhere, like the south.

You talk about levelheadedness but ignored the rest of the country to say severodonetsk and Lysychansk are going to finish things. I keep asking several posters how big they think Ukraine is hoping they’d look at the scale of it vs the forces fighting in it.
 

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They’re using that unlimited artillery ammo right now?
from what i understand they are working through the old Rus/Sov era shells while making the switch to Western weapon systems. it's gotta be an awkward transition to do on the fly but they are doing it with the goal being to have their military hardware and tactics be NATO compliant whether or not they actually join.
I think some Ukrainian officials stole some of that money or sold weapons to African countries.
pure speculation on your part.
 

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Doesn’t mean that Ukraine is out the game for sure, but they’re losing a lot of experienced soldiers and equipment, both of which aren’t getting replaced fast enough
the same exact thing can be said about Russia except you are wrong about the equipment part. Ukraine has ammo and equipment coming in non stop. the logistics of such a large program will only get better with time. Russia on the other hand is dealing with diminishing hardware and ammo that is probably not being replaced in inventory. i'm not saying that i or anyone else knows how many shells and missiles Russia has but i'm fairly certain that the number is not going up.

you were saying?
 

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from what i understand they are working through the old Rus/Sov era shells while making the switch to Western weapon systems. it's gotta be an awkward transition to do on the fly but they are doing it with the goal being to have their military hardware and tactics be NATO compliant whether or not they actually join.

pure speculation on your part.

:unimpressed: I’ll be back when the story breaks
 

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They just took 2 of the biggest cities in the east within a week of each other. They’re poised to capture the whole Donbass and they’re aiming to take Odessa to leave Ukraine land locked.

But let these fools in HL tell it Russia fina run out of ammo tomorrow. You have one idiot who thinks Ukraine will retake Crimea by October and another idiot who is trying hand out homework to grown men.

They keep talking about the next Wonder weapon the west will send or all these so called troops getting trained up. But the reality is, Ukraine is getting their shyt pushed in HARD right now


@Loose told you :umad:
 

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If you believe that it is preferable to be a specialist in failure, such as yourself
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Perhaps people in this thread should look towards victors instead

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Hold on I’ll brb. Let me go plead with everyone in Poland, Romania, and Ukraine to stop training and fighting. They don’t know there’s a nikka from an academy in higher learning, dropping jewels.
 

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Okay y’all, pack it up. Our new focus is @Nkrumah Was Right’s “back in the academy” stories and how his PowerPoint sand table lessons will lead to complete utter victory under all circumstance.
 

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Hold on I’ll brb. Let me go plead with everyone in Poland, Romania, and Ukraine to stop training and fighting. They don’t know there’s a nikka from an academy in higher learning, dropping jewels.

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