Russian doing fly bys over US naval ship in the Black Sea

[Digga38]

you would also have to factor in morale with troops here. Im not sure the US troops are even ready to fight (demonize the enemy) Russia troops probally a little more willing right now since we are bringing it right to there doorstep

 

[Bawon Samedi]

They have infinite amount of missiles? The US has prepared to sacrifice bases in preparation of this and this is not a secret, all you have to do is read Cold War documents. This is Cold War planning. Russia now is much weaker than it's Soviet days as well. It can no longer keep up with the technological advancements of the US and doesn't have the cash flow to do it.

Even during WWII, The Soviets were damn near collapsing until US Lend-Lease supplied them with cash and equipment. Mater of fact, Stalin was preparing to have his shyt pushed in and the Americans knew it. Ultimately, the Soviet's greatest contribution was bodies, as cold as that sounds. Go read up on the Lend-Lease.

You'd be naive to think the US stopped planning for a massive World War after 1991.

Then you have this...
List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Digga38]

They have infinite amount of missiles? The US has prepared to sacrifice bases in preparation of this and this is not a secret, all you have to do is read Cold War documents. This is Cold War planning. Russia now is much weaker than it's Soviet days as well. It can no longer keep up with the technological advancements of the US and doesn't have the cash flow to do it.

Even during WWII, The Soviets were damn near collapsing until US Lend-Lease supplied them with cash and equipment. Mater of fact, Stalin was preparing to have his shyt pushed in and the Americans knew it. Ultimately, the Soviet's greatest contribution was bodies.

You'd be naive to think the US stopped planning for a massive World War after 1991.

its also equally naive to think russia hasnt made plans to counter the tech edge.....

 

[Tommy Knocks]

They have infinite amount of missiles? The US has prepared to sacrifice bases in preparation of this and this is not a secret, all you have to do is read Cold War documents. This is Cold War planning. Russia now is much weaker than it's Soviet days as well. It can no longer keep up with the technological advancements of the US and doesn't have the cash flow to do it.

Even during WWII, The Soviets were damn near collapsing until US Lend-Lease supplied them with cash and equipment. Mater of fact, Stalin was preparing to have his shyt pushed in and the Americans knew it. Ultimately, the Soviet's greatest contribution was bodies, as cold as that sounds. Go read up on the Lend-Lease.

You'd be naive to think the US stopped planning for a massive World War after 1991.

False. Russia is weaker in terms of an offensive global attack machine, but in terms of defending Mother Russia, it much more powerful and advanced than the Soviet Union. Russia doesn't need an offensive military....what for? They mind their own business, as does China. Both countries concentrate on annihilating anyone that tries to invade them. In order for NATO to reach Russia, it most transport.....and that's when they'll be met with missile shields.

My god, I can't believe people are still underestimating Russia, open a damn book. On paper Nazi Germany was the most advanced military in the world, and we saw their fate. Napoleon was also the most advanced military, we saw their fate also. Genghis Khan, he got the beats too. NO ONE will EVER touch Mother Russia, ever. Until the world realizes this, they will continue to lose in embarrassing fashion. They don't know Russia's terrain, spirit, and the sort of masters they are at chess playing...both figuratively and literally. The west have ZERO wins again Russia.

 

[Type Username Here]

its also equally naive to think russia hasnt made plans to counter the tech edge.....

I never said that. But they aren't on the same level. Do we know what secret projects the US Military has? Take the Stealth Bomber for example, it was in development for a decade before anyone in the public knew it existed.


Don't get me wrong, a war of that scale would have repercussions on the entire planet. NATO will ride with the US, along with other nations. China will have to make a decision whether it wants to back Russia or still have their economy propped up by US financing and investment. Decisions, Decisions.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Then you have this...
List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Money means nothing. It is more expensive to build an aircraft carrier, but a 2 million dollar missile can drown it. WHY THE fukk ARE YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING THIS PART?????????????? fukk.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Money means nothing. It is more expensive to build an aircraft carrier, but a 2 million dollar missile can drown it. WHY THE fukk ARE YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING THIS PART?????????????? fukk.

And America can't do the same? And you're forgetting about Russia LIMIT and thats due to their limit of spending.

 

[Type Username Here]

False. Russia is weaker in terms of an offensive global attack machine, but in terms of defending Mother Russia, it much more powerful and advanced than the Soviet Union. Russia doesn't need an offensive military....what for? They mind their own business, as does China. Both countries concentrate on annihilating anyone that tries to invade them. In order for NATO to reach Russia, it most transport.....and that's when they'll be met with missile shields.

My god, I can't believe people are still underestimating Russia, open a damn book. On paper Nazi Germany was the most advanced military in the world, and we saw their fate. Napoleon was also the most advanced military, we saw their fate also. Genghis Khan, he got the beats too. NO ONE will EVER touch Mother Russia, ever. Until the world realizes this, they will continue to lose in embarrassing fashion. They don't know Russia's terrain, spirit, and the sort of masters they are at chess playing...both figuratively and literally. The west have ZERO wins again Russia.

You saw their fate because Hitler opened up a war ON TWO FRONTS AND THE SOVIET UNION WAS PROPPED UP WITH AMERICAN FUNDS AND EQUIPMENT.

You go read a book. They had bodies, terrain and the weather. They were damn near broke. The US sent diplomats there and they told FDR that Russia had at most 6 to 8 weeks without US AID. Even Stalin acknowledged this.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I never said that. But they aren't on the same level. Do we know what secret projects the US Military has? Take the Stealth Bomber for example, it was in development for a decade before anyone in the public knew it existed.
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Russia can detect our stealth technology....

their scientists responded the tech with VHF and UHF radars [DOUBLEPOST=1397665679][/DOUBLEPOST]

And America can't do the same? And you're forgetting about Russia LIMIT and thats due to their limit of spending.

It can't no. That's the part youu're not getting.

There's no aircraft carrier to take out. Russia will not be deploying it, since its not on the offensive, and no, the U.S does not have more missiles than Russia. I gave yall the lists.

 

[Type Username Here]

Russia can detect our stealth technology....

They their scientists responded the tech with VHF and UHF radars

For tech made in the 1970s? I would expect so.

What does the US have now though? Do you know? I don't.

Considering that according to the Snowden leaks Russia and China had their shyt sniffed out and stolen and didn't know about it tells you exactly how far behind they are.[DOUBLEPOST=1397665958][/DOUBLEPOST]What would become this stealth bomber here:

started being built in the mid 1970s. They world didn't know about it until 1989.

What was being built 10 years ago?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Russia can detect our stealth technology....

their scientists responded the tech with VHF and UHF radars [DOUBLEPOST=1397665679][/DOUBLEPOST]
It can't no. That's the part youu're not getting.

There's no aircraft carrier to take out. Russia will not be deploying it, since its not on the offensive, and no, the U.S does not have more missiles than Russia. I gave yall the lists.

Nuclear missiles? So what? It only really takes one Nuke. Most of the Russian population lives on western side and it can easily be taken out. You dont think military spending does not play a part?

Does Russia have missile defense shield program?

 

[Tommy Knocks]

For tech made in the 1970s? I would expect so.

What does the US have now though? Do you know? I don't.

Considering that according to the Snowden leaks Russia and China had their shyt sniffed out and stolen and didn't know about it tells you exactly how far behind they are.[DOUBLEPOST=1397665958][/DOUBLEPOST]What would become this stealth bomber here:

started being built in the mid 1970s. They world didn't know about it until 1989.

What was being built 10 years ago?

We have 10 B2s. all of them can be detected by Russian radar. 10 S-400 could knock them out. Those are 10 $2 million dollar missiles that can take out 10 2 Billion dollar planes. Now do you see how absurd it is?[DOUBLEPOST=1397666382][/DOUBLEPOST]

Nuclear missiles? So what? It only really takes one Nuke. Most of the Russian population lives on western side and it can easily be taken out. You dont think military spending does not play a part?

Does Russia have missile defense shield program?

wrong. If we decided to go nuclear, everyone loses, we've already established that in this thread. If Russia detects any nukes in the air, it will launch from sea and land. nuclear war is not a win for anyone. the east coast would be decimated. millions gone in seconds. That's not a game.

btw. NATO defense shield is already obsolete. Russia countered it with multi trajectory missiles. That means missiles that can change direction. Most of their missiles can now.

 

[Type Username Here]

We have 10 B2s. all of them can be detected by Russian radar. 10 S-400 could knock them out. Those are 10 $2 million dollar missiles that can take out 10 2 Billion dollar planes. Now do you see how absurd it is?

What you're not understanding is that the B2 is technology from the mid 1970s. It was kept secret for damn near 15 years. Off the books.

What's off the books now?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

We have 10 B2s. all of them can be detected by Russian radar. 10 S-400 could knock them out. Those are 10 $2 million dollar missiles that can take out 10 2 Billion dollar planes. Now do you see how absurd it is?[DOUBLEPOST=1397666382][/DOUBLEPOST]
wrong. If we decided to go nuclear, everyone loses, we've already established that in this thread. If Russia detects any nukes in the air, it will launch from sea and land. nuclear war is not a win for anyone. the east coast would be decimated. millions gone in seconds. That's not a game.

No I'm taking if RUSSIA uses nukes, and I believe you even said they will in this thread. USA military has been working on a nuclear defense shield program for the past years.

I know its not a game, but what I'm trying to tell you is do not underestimate the military spending's of the USA...

 

[Type Username Here]

To THE PRESIDENT, Mr. H. TRUMAN

The White House, Washington

On the third anniversary of the Soviet-American Agreement on the Principles Applying to Mutual Aid in the Prosecution of the War against Aggression,92 I beg you and the Government of the United States of America to accept this expression of gratitude on behalf of the Soviet Government and myself.

The Agreement, under which the United States of America throughout the war in Europe supplied the Soviet Union, by way of lend-lease,4 with munitions, strategic materials and food, played an important role and to a considerable degree contributed to the successful conclusion of the war against the common foe-Hitler Germany.

I feel entirely confident that the Friendly links between the Soviet Union and the United States of America [ ], strengthened in 'the course of their joint effort, will continue to develop for the benefit of our peoples and in the interests of durable cooperation between all freedom-loving nations,

J. STALIN