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What's Behind Russian Support for World's Separatist Movements?


What's Behind Russian Support for World's Separatist Movements?
MOSCOW — Britain's decision to leave the European Union is just the beginning, if some in the Kremlin have their way.

Northern Irish, Scottish, Basque, Catalan and Italian secessionists have been invited to Moscow for a conference, partly funded by Russia, planned for August. They will mingle with Texan, Californian, Puerto-Rican and Hawaiian wannabe-separatists from all over the world, the conference organizer says.

"Our goal is to consolidate efforts based on international legal standards [and] to achieve the very democracy the European Union and the United States talk about, but [the democracy] in its true meaning," Alexander Ionov, head of the Anti-Globalist Movement of Russia, which is organizing the event, told NBC News.

One of the international standards he referred to is to a nation's right for self-determination that is part of the United Nations' chapter.

Ionov said that the Russian government's modest grant of $53,000 to accommodate dozens of guests will be supplemented by private donations from "Texas and other countries" that openly or clandestinely support the secessionist cause.

Related: Russia, China See Silver Linings After U.K.'s Brexit Vote

Western leaders and Russia experts say the Kremlin backs fringe, ultra-nationalist and separatist parties to destabilize groupings such as NATO and the EU and to thwart U.S. missile defense installations that Moscow sees as a threat to its security.

They also say Moscow uses these movements to promote its political agenda, gain more political leverage within the EU and push for the lifting of Western sanctions imposed on Moscow after its 2014 annexation of Crimea.

President Barack Obama said in April that Russia's Vladimir Putin "exploits" the EU migrant crisis because he is "not entirely persuaded" by European unity. In January, Congress instructed James Clapper, the U.S.'s director of national intelligence, to investigate how the Kremlin finances these parties.

speech at Brookings Institution, a Washington-based think tank. "President Putin sees such political forces as useful tools to be manipulated, to create cracks in the European body politic which he can then exploit."


The director of the Institute of Political Studies, political scientist Sergei Markov at a meeting of the Open Tribune council of experts to discuss the issue of civil society in modern Russia. Anna Isakova / TASS via Getty Images
A Russian opposition leader claims the Kremlin's new friendships reflect its political desperation to find political allies of any stripe.

"This is a diagnosis of international isolation," said Gennady Gudkov, a former lawmaker who was evicted from the State Duma, Russia's lower house of parliament, after longtime criticism of Putin's policies. "Now we embrace the very people we had never wanted to share bread with."

Related: U.S. Infuriates Russia by Sending Tanks Within Miles of Border

Putin has a different take.

"Nobody wants to feed and subsidize weaker economies, maintain other states, entire nations," he said after the U.K.'s shock vote to leave the EU, known as Brexit. One of the arguments deployed by those who campaigned for Britain to leave was that wealthier countries contribute disproportionately more than their poorer counterparts.

A pro-Kremlin political analyst and former lawmaker called Russia's new alliances with separatists "very useful" — but blamed the West for forcing Moscow to embrace their cause.




Russia's President Vladimir Putin. MAXIM SHEMETOV / Reuters


"The EU [and] the U.S. push Russia to support all sorts of anti-establishment movements," Sergei Markov told NBC News, referring to Euroskeptic and separatist groups."

He echoed the Kremlin's assertion that the West plots to weaken resurgent Russia by installing pro-Western governments in neighboring ex-Soviet republics such as Georgia and Ukraine, and by giving financial support to opposition movements, human rights groups and NGOs.

Related: Huge NATO Drills Prep for 'Real Life' Conflict With Russia

Ionov, of the Anti-Globalist Movement, and Markov said the Kremlin does not finance foreign secessionist parties. Top Kremlin officials also denied the accusation, according to Russian media reports.

However, France's far-right Euroskeptic National Front Party has admitted receiving $12.2 million loan from a Kremlin-affiliated bank in 2014, according to Bloomberg. And it asked for another loan of $27.7 million in February, the report added.

"I will look for funds where I know I might get them," the party's treasurer Wallerand Saint-Just told Bloomberg. "I found some financing there in 2014, so yes I am going to try again."

The National Front did not respond to NBC News' requests for comment.

Moscow's conservative pivot
Vladimir Putin's return to the Kremlin for a third presidency in 2012 was marked by a conservative pivot for Moscow. The Kremlin now extols Christian values, denounces Western influences and bans sex education in schools. This "traditional" worldview overlaps with efforts to restore Russia's clout in former Soviet regions — such as Ukraine and Georgia —and forge ties with nationalist and fringe groups in Europe.




Delegates listen to speeches during the 'International Russian Conservative Forum' in St. Petersburg, Russia, 22 march 2015. ANATOLY MALTSEV / EPA


Boris Reitschuster, a veteran German journalist who authored several books on Russia, claims that the ties date back to the first years of Putin's presidency — and his past as a KGB spy in East Germany in 1985-1990, where he developed ties to the Stasi, the secret police.

"I think it started shortly after Putin came to power," Reitschuster told the Voice of America in April. "He was a KGB man, and everything he is using now is the old methods of the KGB and the Stasi."

One of these parties is the neo-Nazi National Democratic Party of Germany, whose former leader Udo Voigt, a current member of the European Parliament, attended the International Russian Conservative Forum conference in St. Petersburg in 2015.


Rodina's founder and de-facto leader, Dmitri Rogozin, served as Russian envoy to NATO and is now a deputy prime minister in Putin's government in charge of defense, space and nuclear industries. He was barred from entering the EU and the U.S. for his role in the annexation of Crimea.

While supporting the far-right and secessionist groups abroad, Russia violently cracks down on domestic separatists.

After the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, Moscow fought hard to contain Russia's further dissolution by waging two wars against separatists in Chechnya and negotiating deals with the government in Tatarstan, an oil-rich, largely Muslim region on the Volga River that declared independence in the early 1990s but remains a Russian territory.

Neo-Nazi and ultra-nationalist groups mushroomed throughout Russia in the late 1990s, and some of these parties,such as the banned Northern Brotherhood, want regions with the dominant ethnic Russian population to form a separate state.

Meanwhile, a handful of activists in some of 85 Russian provinces with sizable Muslim, Buddhist or shamanist populations also advocate independence.

Dozens of ultra-nationalists and separatists have been convicted and jailed for "propagating" their views in recent years, Sova, a Moscow-based human rights group, said in a recent report.

"They support people like me abroad, and jail us here," Dmitry Demishkin, a veteran skinhead and head of the nationalist Russkiye (Russians) party that has repeatedly been denied registration, said in July just days before he was sentenced to 15 days in jail for posting a swastika on his social networking page.




Russian President Vladimir Putin chooses a questioner during his annual press conference in Moscow in December, 2014. SERGEI CHIRIKOV / EPA
 

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What's Behind Russian Support for World's Separatist Movements?


What's Behind Russian Support for World's Separatist Movements?
MOSCOW — Britain's decision to leave the European Union is just the beginning, if some in the Kremlin have their way.

Northern Irish, Scottish, Basque, Catalan and Italian secessionists have been invited to Moscow for a conference, partly funded by Russia, planned for August. They will mingle with Texan, Californian, Puerto-Rican and Hawaiian wannabe-separatists from all over the world, the conference organizer says.

"Our goal is to consolidate efforts based on international legal standards [and] to achieve the very democracy the European Union and the United States talk about, but [the democracy] in its true meaning," Alexander Ionov, head of the Anti-Globalist Movement of Russia, which is organizing the event, told NBC News.

One of the international standards he referred to is to a nation's right for self-determination that is part of the United Nations' chapter.

Ionov said that the Russian government's modest grant of $53,000 to accommodate dozens of guests will be supplemented by private donations from "Texas and other countries" that openly or clandestinely support the secessionist cause.

Related: Russia, China See Silver Linings After U.K.'s Brexit Vote

Western leaders and Russia experts say the Kremlin backs fringe, ultra-nationalist and separatist parties to destabilize groupings such as NATO and the EU and to thwart U.S. missile defense installations that Moscow sees as a threat to its security.

They also say Moscow uses these movements to promote its political agenda, gain more political leverage within the EU and push for the lifting of Western sanctions imposed on Moscow after its 2014 annexation of Crimea.

President Barack Obama said in April that Russia's Vladimir Putin "exploits" the EU migrant crisis because he is "not entirely persuaded" by European unity. In January, Congress instructed James Clapper, the U.S.'s director of national intelligence, to investigate how the Kremlin finances these parties.

speech at Brookings Institution, a Washington-based think tank. "President Putin sees such political forces as useful tools to be manipulated, to create cracks in the European body politic which he can then exploit."


The director of the Institute of Political Studies, political scientist Sergei Markov at a meeting of the Open Tribune council of experts to discuss the issue of civil society in modern Russia. Anna Isakova / TASS via Getty Images
A Russian opposition leader claims the Kremlin's new friendships reflect its political desperation to find political allies of any stripe.

"This is a diagnosis of international isolation," said Gennady Gudkov, a former lawmaker who was evicted from the State Duma, Russia's lower house of parliament, after longtime criticism of Putin's policies. "Now we embrace the very people we had never wanted to share bread with."

Related: U.S. Infuriates Russia by Sending Tanks Within Miles of Border

Putin has a different take.

"Nobody wants to feed and subsidize weaker economies, maintain other states, entire nations," he said after the U.K.'s shock vote to leave the EU, known as Brexit. One of the arguments deployed by those who campaigned for Britain to leave was that wealthier countries contribute disproportionately more than their poorer counterparts.

A pro-Kremlin political analyst and former lawmaker called Russia's new alliances with separatists "very useful" — but blamed the West for forcing Moscow to embrace their cause.




Russia's President Vladimir Putin. MAXIM SHEMETOV / Reuters


"The EU [and] the U.S. push Russia to support all sorts of anti-establishment movements," Sergei Markov told NBC News, referring to Euroskeptic and separatist groups."

He echoed the Kremlin's assertion that the West plots to weaken resurgent Russia by installing pro-Western governments in neighboring ex-Soviet republics such as Georgia and Ukraine, and by giving financial support to opposition movements, human rights groups and NGOs.

Related: Huge NATO Drills Prep for 'Real Life' Conflict With Russia

Ionov, of the Anti-Globalist Movement, and Markov said the Kremlin does not finance foreign secessionist parties. Top Kremlin officials also denied the accusation, according to Russian media reports.

However, France's far-right Euroskeptic National Front Party has admitted receiving $12.2 million loan from a Kremlin-affiliated bank in 2014, according to Bloomberg. And it asked for another loan of $27.7 million in February, the report added.

"I will look for funds where I know I might get them," the party's treasurer Wallerand Saint-Just told Bloomberg. "I found some financing there in 2014, so yes I am going to try again."

The National Front did not respond to NBC News' requests for comment.

Moscow's conservative pivot
Vladimir Putin's return to the Kremlin for a third presidency in 2012 was marked by a conservative pivot for Moscow. The Kremlin now extols Christian values, denounces Western influences and bans sex education in schools. This "traditional" worldview overlaps with efforts to restore Russia's clout in former Soviet regions — such as Ukraine and Georgia —and forge ties with nationalist and fringe groups in Europe.




Delegates listen to speeches during the 'International Russian Conservative Forum' in St. Petersburg, Russia, 22 march 2015. ANATOLY MALTSEV / EPA


Boris Reitschuster, a veteran German journalist who authored several books on Russia, claims that the ties date back to the first years of Putin's presidency — and his past as a KGB spy in East Germany in 1985-1990, where he developed ties to the Stasi, the secret police.

"I think it started shortly after Putin came to power," Reitschuster told the Voice of America in April. "He was a KGB man, and everything he is using now is the old methods of the KGB and the Stasi."

One of these parties is the neo-Nazi National Democratic Party of Germany, whose former leader Udo Voigt, a current member of the European Parliament, attended the International Russian Conservative Forum conference in St. Petersburg in 2015.


Rodina's founder and de-facto leader, Dmitri Rogozin, served as Russian envoy to NATO and is now a deputy prime minister in Putin's government in charge of defense, space and nuclear industries. He was barred from entering the EU and the U.S. for his role in the annexation of Crimea.

While supporting the far-right and secessionist groups abroad, Russia violently cracks down on domestic separatists.

After the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, Moscow fought hard to contain Russia's further dissolution by waging two wars against separatists in Chechnya and negotiating deals with the government in Tatarstan, an oil-rich, largely Muslim region on the Volga River that declared independence in the early 1990s but remains a Russian territory.

Neo-Nazi and ultra-nationalist groups mushroomed throughout Russia in the late 1990s, and some of these parties,such as the banned Northern Brotherhood, want regions with the dominant ethnic Russian population to form a separate state.

Meanwhile, a handful of activists in some of 85 Russian provinces with sizable Muslim, Buddhist or shamanist populations also advocate independence.

Dozens of ultra-nationalists and separatists have been convicted and jailed for "propagating" their views in recent years, Sova, a Moscow-based human rights group, said in a recent report.

"They support people like me abroad, and jail us here," Dmitry Demishkin, a veteran skinhead and head of the nationalist Russkiye (Russians) party that has repeatedly been denied registration, said in July just days before he was sentenced to 15 days in jail for posting a swastika on his social networking page.




Russian President Vladimir Putin chooses a questioner during his annual press conference in Moscow in December, 2014. SERGEI CHIRIKOV / EPA



Breh, why the fukk do you keep talking about the Russians???

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Russia about to hand Euro Imperialism a lost brehs in the next 5 years. He got the Muslims in Checyna under control and Saudi Arabia threaten him and he called them blufff. Been having spies in European since the 80s and now beating America at its own game.

Continue to suppress blacks at all means while the country slowly collapses brehs. Prisons drugs and economic warfare.
 
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Exclusive: Suspected Russian hack of DNC widens — includes personal email of staffer researching Manafort

Exclusive: Suspected Russian hack of DNC widens — includes personal email of staffer researching Manafort

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The Democratic National Committee headquarters iin Washington, D.C. (Photo: Alex Brandon/AP)
Just weeks after she started preparing opposition research files on Donald Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort last spring, Democratic National Committee consultant Alexandra Chalupa got an alarming message when she logged into her personal Yahoo email account.

“Important action required,” read a pop-up box from a Yahoo security team that is informally known as “the Paranoids.” “We strongly suspect that your account has been the target of state-sponsored actors.”

Chalupa — who had been drafting memos and writing emails about Manafort’s connection to pro-Russian political leaders in Ukraine — quickly alerted top DNC officials. “Since I started digging into Manafort, these messages have been a daily occurrence on my Yahoo account despite changing my password often,” she wrote in a May 3 email to Luis Miranda, the DNC’s communications director, which included an attached screengrab of the image of the Yahoo security warning.

“I was freaked out,” Chalupa, who serves as director of “ethnic engagement” for the DNC, told Yahoo News in an interview, noting that she had been in close touch with sources in Kiev, Ukraine, including a number of investigative journalists, who had been providing her with information about Manafort’s political and business dealings in that country and Russia.

“This is really scary,” she said.

Chalupa’s message is among nearly 20,000 hacked internal DNC emails that were posted over the weekend by WikiLeaks as the Democratic Party gathered for its national convention in Philadelphia. Those emails have already provoked a convulsion in Democratic Party ranks, leading to the resignation of DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz in the wake of posted messages in which she and other top DNC officials privately derided Bernie Sanders and plotted to undercut his insurgent campaign against Hillary Clinton.

But Chalupa’s message, which had not been previously reported, stands out: It is the first indication that the reach of the hackers who penetrated the DNC has extended beyond the official email accounts of committee officials to include their private email and potentially the content on their smartphones. After Chalupa sent the email to Miranda (which mentions that she had invited this reporter to a meeting with Ukrainian journalists in Washington), it triggered high-level concerns within the DNC, given the sensitive nature of her work. “That’s when we knew it was the Russians,” said a Democratic Party source who has been directly involved in the internal probe into the hacked emails. In order to stem the damage, the source said, “we told her to stop her research.”

A Yahoo spokesman said the pop-up warning to Chalupa “appears to be one of our notifications” and said it was consistent with a new policy announced by Yahoo on its Tumblr page last December to notify customers when it has strong evidence of “state sponsored” cyberattacks. “Rest assured we only send these notifications of suspected attacks by state-sponsored actors when we have a high degree of confidence,” wrote Bob Lord, the company’s Chief Information Security Officer, in the Tumblr post.

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Screengrab of the Yahoo security warning. (Photo: Yahoo News photo)
Asked about charges by Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook that “Russian state actors” hacked the DNC in order to help Trump, who has made sympathetic comments about Russian President Vladimir Putin, Manafort on Sunday dismissed the charges in multiple television interviews as “absurd” and “crazy.” The claims are “pure obfuscation on the part of the Clinton campaign,” Manafort said on ABCs “This Week.” “What they don’t want to talk about is what’s in those emails.”

In mid-June, Democratic Party suspicions about the hackers seemed to be confirmed when CrowdStrike, an outside security firm retained by the DNC, reported that it traced the hackers to two separate units linked to Russia’s security services: the FSB, Russia’s equivalent of the FBI, and GRU, the country’s military intelligence agency. The company noted strong similarities between the attack on the DNC by the suspected GRU hackers and previous cyberintrusions of unclassified systems at the White House, the State Department and the offices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (After discovering the data breach, a DNC security source said its cyberexperts noted that the hackers’ exfiltration of files took place “9 to 5, Moscow time.”) An FBI official confirmed that the bureau has been investigating the breach for some time, and, according to one source familiar with the matter, Director James Comey has been personally briefed.


The extent of the damage was at first unclear. When they first authorized a public release of the CrowdStrike analysis, party officials said that the hackers had targeted oppo files on Donald Trump. But they told reporters that no personal information about donors had been penetrated. Party officials are no longer standing by those assurances. Two sources familiar with the breach said that the hackers’ reach was far more widespread than initially thought and includes personal data about big party contributors and internal “vetting” evaluations that include embarrassing comments about their business dealings (as well as gossipy internal emails about the private affairs of DNC staffers). One newly posted email discusses a prospective DNC donor’s offering to host a fundraiser with President Obama, noting that he had previously been convicted in a case involving allegations that he killed 50 horses, as part of an insurance fraud scheme. Party officials are bracing for more damaging document dumps after Labor Day. “They’re having to do serious damage control with the donors right now,” said a party official familiar with the matter.

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Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort is surrounded by reporters on the floor of the Republican National Convention at Quicken Loans Arena, Sunday, July 17, 2016, in Cleveland. (Photo: Matt Rourke/AP)
There are also signs that the hackers have penetrated the personal email of some Clinton campaign staffers — at least those who were in communication with senior DNC staff members. On May 6, John McCarthy, a DNC consultant who has since joined the Clinton campaign to do outreach to religious groups, sent an email to Chalupa from his personal Gmail account that was then forwarded to other party officials. McCarthy proposed arranging for religious leaders who have “condemned Trump for bringing out the worst in America” to stage a protest at the Republican National Convention. “It would be great to try and engage them and get them to do something at convention, etc. Maybe do a vigil at the Cleveland convention?” McCarthy wrote in the email, which included his personal cellphone number and which has now been posted as part of the WikiLeaks data dump.

There is still much that is not known about the DNC hack and how, if the Russians are indeed behind it, the emails found their way to WikiLeaks. Some commentators have noted that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has in the past hosted a talk show on RT, the Russian television network that serves as a propaganda arm for the Kremlin. (Assange, without providing specifics, recently claimed he will be posting more emails that will be damaging to Clinton and “provide enough evidence” to get her arrested.)

There are also signs that the Obama administration is taking the matter more seriously. The Washington Post reported Monday that White House officials convened a high-level security meeting last Thursday, hours before WikiLeaks began posting the emails, to review information about the DNC attack. Party officials are privately pushing the White House to publicly blame the Russians in the same way it blamed North Korea for the cyberattack on Sony and China for intrusions into U.S. companies. “The last time somebody broke into the DNC, it led to the resignation of a president,” said the Democratic Party security source, referring to the Watergate scandal. In some ways, the source insisted, the current cyberheist — what some in party circles are already calling a “21st century Watergate” — is even more sinister, the source said. “This is the Russians screwing with the integrity of our election process.”








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Russia about to hand Euro Imperialism a lost brehs in the next 5 years. He got the Muslims in Checyna under control and Saudi Arabia threaten him and he called them blufff. Been having spies in European since the 80s and now beating America at its all game.

Continue to suppress blacks at all means while the country slowly collapses brehs. Prisons drugs and economic warfare.
This is low-key my biggest fear. America needs to reconcile its race problem or its going to become a massive exploit for foreign nations
 

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how can Americas race issue be fueled by Russia? LOL stawp

Race issues cause choas which can leave a country vulnerable. America is so lucky we have no neighbors. Whites the racist ones are so blinded by their hatred for their own fellow American that they will and have let this county suffer because of a black president or because it didn't happen to billy. Blacks can go anywhere in the world and be fine, all countries hate euro American cacs breh. If shyt hit the fan we fine
 
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