RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT

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Trump just failed his first attempt at "replacing " Obamacare with Obamacare lite. Nothing all the way right about it.

And his supporters were pissed and still want the ACA repealed(except for the ones who were unaware that they relied on it)

Trump also shat on the Freedom Caucus.

Because they are afraid that out right support could cost them seats.

Trumps proposing a trillion dollars in spending nothing all the way right about that.

Trillions of dollars is money well spent for getting rid of the Mexicans and Muslims, in the eyes of his supporters.

I dont know anything about Bannon that suggests he's conservative. Far right or otherwise.

You mean the guy that's in love with the idea of a race war happening?
And yet he still has millions of supporters around the country who are very vocal about the fact that they don't care about any of these scandals, as long as he keeps talking about building the wall and banning Muslims.

Millions of supporters who are willing to riot if Trump gets impeached.

:dwillhuh:
 

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And yet he still has millions of supporters around the country who are very vocal about the fact that they don't care about any of these scandals, as long as he keeps talking about building the wall and banning Muslims.

Millions of supporters who are willing to riot if Trump gets impeached.

:dwillhuh:
How does any of that mean Republicans went far right? Sycophantic, xenophobic, potentially violent maybe... but far right? Conservative? I don't see it.
 

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I believe I've seen this before and I came to the conclusion that she was mentally "unhinged" at best:jbhmm:

I just can't take people like that too serious when they go on a rant to try and prove their point.:hubie:
:dwillhuh:you saw that but you still came to the conclusion that there was russian bots interfering with pro-bernie sites?

you might be the reason she appears mentally "unhinged"
 

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These "blame everyone but the crooked bytch in the suit pants" nikkas have the same level of delusion and intellect as Trump trolls...

Shilltards can never admit the bytch was a horrendous candidate and that's the reason we're in this mess...

If you gave the voter a better candidate, one that wasn't consumed with scandal and on wall streets payroll there would be no orangutan in the oval right now...
most of the "scandal" was manufactured. They could not find any serious problems in those emails. The scandal was the fact you saw internal communications, of which, exist on the GOP as well.
 

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but you still came to the conclusion that there was russian bots interfering with pro-bernie sites?

you might be the reason she appears "unhinged"

:hhh:What are you talking about

The bots worked on social media, so peoples' facebook feed would say stuff like "Hillary called black men super predators" every day leading up to the election or that Pizza Gate nonsense
:gucci:

Also I am not denying that Hillary was a shyt candidate or that they did Bernie dirty, what I am saying is Bernie Bros were manipulated into thinking it was more important to make a point and not vote for that lying bytch Hillary than it was to keep the even worse lying bytch Trump out of office through a targeted media campaign. AKA Russian Propaganda
:hubie:

Also she looks unhinged cause she went on a 10 minute rant about how she knows more than what the investigators and evidence shows and once somebody says "mainstream media" with the screw face I assume they are unhinged cause they start mocking institutions and people like high schoolers instead of debating the facts

:scust:

Even now you guys are so plugged in your still talking shyt about Hillary and Trump is about to be impeached:ufdup:

Your're so conditioned to a particular response (blame Hillary), your conditioning has been conditioned:whoo:
 

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How does any of that mean Republicans went far right
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Sycophantic, xenophobic, potentially violent maybe... but far right?

They supported Trump's far right extremist(borderline white supremacist) views enough to put him in office.

I don't think you can get further right than the Republican base is without going full blown nazi germany.

But democrats want to play it center republican lite because going further left is to extreme?

:gucci:
 

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Just to interject for a bit, those claps at Pence's Ohio stop gave me a feeling of:
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No matter what, it still stands that there was a manipulation campaign, or as I'd like to say an instigation campaign: Like "Ooh, look at what these DNCers did. You ain't gotta vote for not only her, but any of these Dem senators, reps, etc that don't meet the Bern standard." If people wanna be concerned and vocal about strategies the Dems should be implemented and find ways to make them learn from their mistakes, fine, but don't let these instigators off the hook either.
 

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most of the "scandal" was manufactured. They could not find any serious problems in those emails. The scandal was the fact you saw internal communications, of which, exist on the GOP as well.
What's hilarious is after the election all the so called "scandal" just disappeared.:heh: No investigation,no special prosecutor, no nothing. Nikkas screaming corruption where the fukk are the charges?:dead: shyt was manufactured bullshyt.
 

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U.S. sweeping up Russian hackers in a broad global dragnet

U.S. sweeping up Russian hackers in a broad global dragnet

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Stanislav Lisov, who is accused of helping create a destructive virus to plunder bank accounts, was arrested Jan. 13 outside the international airport in Barcelona, Spain. Screengrab / Twitter
BY TIM JOHNSON

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The arrests caught the Russian hackers totally by surprise. One was at a Finnish border crossing. Another was arriving at an airport in Spain. A third was dining at a restaurant in Prague. Still others were at luxury resorts in the Maldives and Thailand.

Many have now turned up in U.S. courts. The long arm of U.S. law enforcement is spanning the globe like never before to bring criminal hackers to justice.

And it may not be just about crime. The Justice Department cites fuzzy and overlapping boundaries between criminal hackers and Russian intelligence agencies, the same ones the U.S. accuses of coordinating the hacking and subsequent disclosure of emails from the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.

President Donald Trump dismisses allegations that Russia meddled in the election as “fake news,” but the FBI and congressional committees have launched probes and the Obama administration ordered the expulsion of 35 Russian diplomats in late December.








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During a Senate committee hearing on Thursday, Florida Senator Marco Rubio stated that his 2016 presidential campaign staff members were the targets of Russian hackers in July 2016 and March 2017, but both efforts were unsuccessful.

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The U.S. campaign leaves Russian hackers with a dilemma: If they leave the safe confines of Russia, which has no extradition treaty with the United States, or Russia’s most ardent allies, they may get picked up and sent to the U.S.

“They no longer travel, the high-profile hackers. They understand the danger,” said Arkady Bukh, a criminal defense lawyer in New York City who has defended numerous accused Russian cybercriminals.

Still, some Russian and Eastern European hackers do enjoy holidays abroad – and live to regret it. Just this week, Maxim Senakh, a 41-year-old Russian, pleaded guilty in a Minneapolis courtroom to operating a massive robotic network that generated tens of millions of spam emails a day in a zombie criminal enterprise that purportedly brought in millions in profits.

Senakh didn’t come voluntarily. He’d been visiting a sister in Finland before that country put him on a U.S.-bound plane in January, answering a U.S. extradition request.

“He fought it, the Russian government fought it, and the Russian government put political pressure on its neighbor, Finland,” federal prosecutor Kevin S. Ueland said at a Feb. 19 hearing.

Another Russian, Mark Vartanyan, 29, pleaded guilty March 20 to computer fraud in an Atlanta courtroom after reaching a deal with prosecutors to offer far-reaching cooperation that would limit a prison term to five years or less.

Norway extradited Vartanyan to the U.S. in December.

David Hickton, a former U.S. attorney in Pittsburgh who made the city a hub for prosecutions of foreign hackers, said such actions are a sign of the new dimensions of crime.

IT’S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF SOMEONE PULLED A TRUCK UP TO YOUR HOUSE AND STOLE VALUABLE MATERIAL. David Hickton, former federal prosecutor

“This is 21st century burglary. It’s no different than if someone pulled a truck up to your house and stole valuable material,” said Hickton, who now directs the Institute for Cyber Law, Policy and Security at the University of Pittsburgh.

But Hickton acknowledged that carrying off successful prosecutions is a challenge.

“These cyber investigations are very, very hard. You’re talking about evaporating evidence, borderless crimes and defendants who can hide behind the borders of countries that don’t have extradition treaties with us,” he said.

It is not easy to pigeonhole the accused and convicted hackers. Some are brainy but merely cogs in larger crime groups. Others flash their wealth and opulent lifestyles.

NOT ALL OF THEM ARE RICH. Arkady Bukh, criminal defense attorney in New York City

“Not all of them are rich,” Bukh said. “A lot of them are involved in computer intrusion and that does not bring much money.”

Bukh recalled one client, Aleksandr Panin, who was placed by authorities on a plane in the Dominican Republic to 2013 bound for Atlanta, put on trial and convicted.

“The guy couldn’t afford a car even with (having caused) a billion dollars in losses. He’s like a mad scientist geek,” Bukh said.

Then there are those on the opposite extreme, who pose for photos with piles of cash or at luxury beach resorts. One of them, Roman Seleznev, was convicted last year in Seattle on 38 counts related to cybercrime. His father is a deputy in the Russian parliament, or Duma. Prosecutors retrieved a photo from his cell phone of him standing next to a yellow Dodge Challenger muscle car in Red Square near the Kremlin.

The magnitude of damages that prosecutors have alleged can be mind-boggling.

Vartanyan, the young Russian hacker brought to Atlanta from Norway, was part of the development team that created Citadel, a “universal spyware system” sold on underground Russian criminal hacker forums that ended up lodged on 11 million infected computers around the world.

In their complaint against him, prosecutors cited industry estimates that Citadel caused “over $500 million in losses” in a three-year period.

The investigations can be incredibly complex, leading federal investigators to call in specialized cybersecurity firms to conduct forensics. In the probe of Senakh, whose guilty plea came last month, the feds turned to ESET, a cybersecurity firm with 18 offices around the world.

ESET analyzed the malicious code Senakh used, dubbed Ebury malware, and found that it had compromised 25,000 servers around the world, researcher Marc-Etienne Leveille said in an email.

Stanislav Lisov, a computer programmer from Taganrog, a town on Russia’s Black Sea coast, had arrived at Barcelona’s international airport with his wife on Jan. 13 when Spanish Civil Guard police arrested him on an FBI warrant issued through Interpol. The charges: electronic and computer fraud.

WE WERE DETAINED AT THE AIRPORT IN BARCELONA. Darya Lisova, wife of accused Russian hacker Stanislav Lisov

“We were detained at the airport in Barcelona, when we came to return a rented car before flying out to Lyon, to continue our trip and visit friends. When we were getting out of the car, two police officers approached, showed us the badge, and said they were detaining my husband,” Darya Lisova told the Russian state-operated RT network.

Spain has not yet extradited Lisov, who is blamed for being the architect of a sophisticated Trojan, NeverQuest, used in stealing log-in credentials for bank accounts.

Here is a rundown of some other recent cases:

▪ Yevgeniy Nikulin, 29, was arrested by police while dining with his girlfriend in a hotel restaurant in Prague’s Old Town Oct. 5. He has been indicted by a federal grand jury in northern California on charges of computer intrusion, identity theft and other crimes for penetrating into the systems of high-tech companies LinkedIn, Dropbox and Formspring. Since then, Washington and Moscow have been in a tug-of-war over Nikulin’s extradition.

▪ Olga Komova, a 26-year-old Uzbek, and Dmitry Ukrainsky, a Russian, were arrested in mid-2016 at beach resorts in Thailand and accused of stealing more than $28 million as part of a mega cyber bank fraud ring. Komova has turned up in U.S. custody and faces federal charges of wire fraud and money laundering. How she was brought to the United States is unclear. Her U.S. lawyer, Michael Soroka, declined to discuss the case.

When extradition isn’t an option, U.S. authorities lure alleged hackers to jurisdictions where they can be arrested. Such tactics have been decried by Moscow as “kidnapping.”

Seleznev, the identity thief who is the son of the Duma deputy, chose to vacation at a five-star resort in the Indian Ocean archipelago nation of the Maldives in 2014 precisely because it has no extradition treaty with the United States.

U.S. officials got word and persuaded Maldives authorities to intercept Seleznev at the airport, where in a fast-paced operation he was bundled on a private plane to Guam, a U.S. territory in the western Pacific, then flown to Seattle to face federal charges.

Upon his conviction last August, prosecutors said Seleznev had stolen millions of credit card numbers, causing 3,700 banks $169 million in losses. He faces a 40-year jail term.

No matter where the hackers travel, prosecutors say they will follow.

The U.S. attorney in Atlanta, John Horn, who has also made a name for himself in prosecuting Russian hackers, offered an unapologetic defense last year of the global reach of U.S. justice.

“Cybercrime is borderless, but increasingly, so too are our law enforcement capabilities,” Horn said.

Tim Johnson: 202-383-6028, @timjohnson4


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They supported Trump's far right extremist(borderline white supremacist) views enough to put him in office.

I don't think you can get further right than the Republican base is without going full blown nazi germany.

But democrats want to play it center republican lite because going further left is to extreme?

:gucci:

You're talking about about one issue, immigration, like that's the defining characteristic of left or right. :francis:

And there's probably more room to the right of Trump than you'd think.
 
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