RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT

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There is ZERO percent chance that Rosenstein would sign that order. Absolutely NONE. Rosenstein is ambitious/cutthroat (necessary in D.C.), but he's not going to irreparably ruin his reputation, not to mention future professional/political/social prospects (he would be forever shunned by upper strata of society), by being a martyr for Trump.

I always thought that at some point he's going to cross a line from which you can't return. It'll be interesting to see how GOP members respond if he does fire Mueller. I think deep down inside the Dems would rather this just drag out as close to 2018 as possible. Assuming his agenda is otherwise dead, they probably don't see any additional benefit to Trump being impeached sooner rather than later.

Some lawyers I know say he got passed over for a judgeship and has an axe to grind. I don't trust him.
 

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Some lawyers I know say he got passed over for a judgeship and has an axe to grind. I don't trust him.

And he's going to get back at everyone by ruining his own career?

He may have been passed over but in the legal world he's still relatively young and this guy is intelligent enough to see the writing on the wall.
 

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I know I keep saying this, but you all are overestimating Republicans.

Even if Trump fires Mueller they still won't do shyt. The majority of the GOP base will always approve of Trump, so House Republicans literally are just not going to vote to impeach Trump no matter what he does.

You don't even need a majority of the Republicans in Congress. Even if 10 Dems vote not to impeach, you still only need 34 Republican votes. Think about all those Reps in California and other blue states.
 

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And he's going to get back at everyone by ruining his own career?

He may have been passed over but in the legal world he's still relatively young and this guy is intelligent enough to see the writing on the wall.

He already started burning bridges, Bruh.

Plenty of people can keep him in work in the private sector if Trump and Co can survive this.

Hell he could just want chaos or payback for all I know.

:yeshrug:

They're just theories at the end of the day.

Maybe he got out maneuvered by Trump with the Comey firing but if that's the case what does that say about his ambition or incompetence.

:picard:
 

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Russian money-laundering details remain in the dark as US settles fraud case

By Jose Pagliery

Updated 6:44 PM ET, Sat May 13, 2017



Source: CNN

US officials feared for Russian witness 02:53
New York (CNN)A major US investigation into Russian money laundering has come to an abrupt end.

The case aimed to expose how Russian mobsters allegedly stole $230 million and hid some of the cash in New York City real estate. Also sure to come up was the suspicious death of the Russian lawyer who exposed the alleged fraud, though US prosecutors weren't alleging that the defendants were behind it.
The trial was set to start on Monday, but late Friday night, federal prosecutors in New York announced they settled the case with Prevezon, the company accused of buying up "high-end commercial space and luxury apartments" with laundered money.
The abrupt conclusion has some involved in the trial wondering why this Russian investigation had been cut short.
"What most concerns me is: Has there been any political pressure applied in this?" asked Louise Shelley, an illicit finance expert who was set to testify in support of the US government on Tuesday.
Shelley — who founded George Mason University's Terrorism, Transnational Crime and Corruption Center — said the alleged money launderers got off easy.
"I think they won something. There's no recognition of wrongdoing," she said.
The US Attorney's office did not respond to CNN's request for comment.
In the settlement, Prevezon and its business associates did not acknowledge any wrongdoing, and the government agreed to "release" them all from any future lawsuits in connection with this case.
The case against Prevezon was a civil matter, so the federal government's inherent goal was to recover money. That it did.
The $5.9 million settlement is three times the value of the $1.9 million in supposedly laundered money tied to funds stolen from the Russian state coffers. But it's far less than the value of Prevezon's real estate in Manhattan -- which Shelley estimates at $17 million -- that had been partially acquired with those allegedly laundered funds.
Russia's largest ever tax fraud
The alleged fraud behind the Prevezon case goes back a decade. According to US investigators, corrupt Russian government officials allegedly teamed up with a powerful Russian organized crime organization to pull off that country's largest ever tax fraud.
Russian crime rings often use identity theft to file fake tax refunds. In this case, the government says that the defendants essentially did that on a grand scale: allegedly stealing the corporate identity of Hermitage Capital Management, an investment firm in Russia. According to the complaints, the defendants then allegedly created fake losses, claimed fake tax refunds -- and made off with the stolen rubles.
Hermitage's lawyer, Sergei Magnitsky, exposed the alleged fraud — and was later jailed by the very investigators he fingered in the plot. He was tortured and killed in prison, according to Russia's own Presidential Human Rights Commission. The Russian government insists that Magnitsky, age 37, died of a heart failure with no signs of violence.
The conspirators allegedly laundered the illicit cash through shell companies, luxury cars, real estate around the world, and international bank accounts.
But without a trial, the illicit money trail remains unproven to the public.
The settlement allowed both sides to still claim a victory.
Prevezon said this is proof it did nothing wrong. In a statement, the firm said: "From the outset, Prevezon and its owner Denis Katsyv have maintained their innocence and have repeatedly stated that they had no involvement in or knowledge of any fraudulent activities and never received any funds from any criminal activity."
Prevezon claimed prosecutors "brought this case without conducting any independent investigation, relying exclusively on the claims of William Browder," the head of Hermitage.
Meanwhile, American prosecutors claimed this served as a deterrent for future money launderers.
"We will not allow the U.S. financial system to be used to launder the proceeds of crimes committed anywhere -- here in the U.S., in Russia, or anywhere else," acting Manhattan US Attorney Joon H. Kim said in a statement.
The case had initially been brought by US Attorney Preet Bharara, but he was fired by President Donald Trump in March.
Bharara congratulated the prosecutors on Twitter late Friday night: "Congrats to Joon & team in Russian money laundering case (underlying fraud uncovered by Sergei Magnitsky, died suspiciously in Moscow jail)."
There was one witness set to testify at the trial who had a very personal connection to the case: Jamison Firestone, whose law firm partner was Magnitsky.
On Saturday, Firestone lamented that details about the Russian government, mobsters and investors who allegedly received these funds won't be aired at trial.
"I wanted this all to come out," he told CNN on Saturday. "The embarrassing stuff exposes the Russian government's entire money laundering machine."
But Firestone said this settlement is one step closer to justice. Estonia, the UK, and the US have already adopted "Magnitsky laws" to sanction Russians connected to the fraud. This settlement is the first time a court in the West has forced someone allegedly involved in the money laundering to pay up.
"We're just going to keep doing this until we expose them all," he told CNN. "These people may escape prosecution as long as the Putin government stands, but it won't stand forever. Putin is going to die before they do, and hopefully they will die in tiny prison cells like Sergei Magnitsky did."
 

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“Obama administration believed that the Russians were possibly preparing to delete voter registration information or slow vote tallying…”

In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said.

:francis: Trump calls this fake news
 

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Marc Kasowitz, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer in the Russia investigation, has boasted to friends and colleagues that he played a central role in the firing of Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, according to four people familiar with the conversations.

Kasowitz told Trump, “This guy is going to get you,” according to a person familiar with Kasowitz’s account.





if this is true props to Nap for seeing what this was about long before most
 
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