Fact but all those cities are garbage, only Durham is redeemable but I'd take Fayetteville over every one of those you listedWinston > Durham > Asheville > Gastonia > Fayetteville
military towns are just that, military towns
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That shyt sucks
I do agree with this. I would say Charlotte is a borderline Top 20 city in America...
Top 5 being NY, LA, Chi, DC, SF...
6-10 being The Bean, Philly, Houston, Atlanta, Dallas...
11-17 being Seattle, Miami, Detroit, MSP, Phx, SD, Denver...
Then the next group of cities is where Charlotte lands, somewhere in the group that includes Bmore, Pdx, StL, Atx, Orlando, Tampa. So if Clt isn't yet a Top 20 city it's damn close and you could make the argument it's over all the cities in this group...
Fayetteville isn't great but I prefer it to Durham or Winston...
Fact but all those cities are garbage, only Durham is redeemable but I'd take Fayetteville over every one of those you listed
That shyt sucks
went down to the charlotte area in 2008. Not inside the city limits i think but close enough to see downtown from where I was. Dont know if yall changed up but whats with folks treating walmart like the corner store standing outside doing ????
you must be madFact but all those cities are garbage, only Durham is redeemable but I'd take Fayetteville over every one of those you listed
I got relatives out there
From 2008 to now 2024?
Uptown don’t even look the same no more
Both. I guess we’d have to see which one fits better once we visit.Which city are yall interested in, both, or just Charlotte?
Yeah right nikka
What are dope American cities to you? And I'm asking about cities in range of Clt and Rgh, not cities that are multiple times bigger. Pittsburgh and Sacramento are the only cities in range of Clt I'd put on par with it, I guess you could include Nashville but Clt shyts on everywhere else...
Richmond and Virginia Beach are the only cities in Rgh's weight class I'd put on par with Rgh, if you made me pick a third city I'd say Salt Lake. Raleigh shyts on everywhere else...
Bruh you live off Old Statesville and Sunset, that's not the most chill area. That Denny's on Sunset used to be the club (Club Denny's), I'm going back over a decade now, always was hot in that area
But yes, anywhere you go it depends on where you live. Believe it or not, there are nicer areas in Memphis and Baltimore too, that if one can afford it, they could choose those areas. The difference in Carolina cities that is truly unique in my opinion, and this goes beyond just Charlotte or Raleigh because Greensboro, Winston, Fayetteville, Durham, are like this too;
But in Carolina there's a deeply rooted black middle class in nearly all the sizable cities, and it's quite large. There are multiple black middle class areas in all these cities, and a good sized wealthy black area, too. Poverty never reached as deeply in Carolina cities as other places nationally, and because poverty is often correlated to violence, Carolina cities have never been as violent as many other places, either. How this happened, I really don't know, but it's something that jumps out to you if you come from a city that is just more dangerous...
Example, you could never mistake anywhere in Carolina for Memphis. It's just not close, the worst hoods in Charlotte and Raleigh would be considered safe in Memphis. Physically the bad areas in Memphis are just so much more broken down, you can see it, and there's a culture of murder and violence in Memphis that goes well before the Civil Rights era, well before desegregation. So when you come from somewhere like that, you can easily spot the contrasts when juxtaposed to Carolina cities...
You don't live in a great area of Charlotte but it isn't the worst. Little Rock is worse, Sugar Creek is worse, etc. So it is about where you live but your frame of reference could be different from mine, what feels like "shootings all the time" to you may not feel so frequent to other people and you aren't wrong for that, it's just based on your own experiences!
Where did you come from prior to Charlotte?
We're 53 days into a new year and Charlotte has 18 murders so far. Could be better, but it's not a "shooting all the time" place. Charlotte so far for the 2020s, averages 108 murders/year, Charlotte averaged 65 in the 10s, 68 in the 00s, and 89 in the 90s. But, Charlotte is also a much larger city than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. The 10s was the best era in Charlotte in recent memory but was historically low, 2020s Charlotte is way safer than it was in the 90s and about on par with what 00s Charlotte was; Charlotte today has more murders and shootings than either era but there's just more people in Charlotte today, Charlotte isn't actually worse...
(By the way this same thing applies for Raleigh. Raleigh is at 7 murders so far this year, and for the 20s to-date is averaging 35. Raleigh averaged 19 in the 10s, a historically low era, 20 in the 00s, and 23 in the 90s. Today's Raleigh is a little safer but close to what Raleigh's violent crime levels were in the 90s. Raleigh has way more people living here today than it did 25-30 years ago, though)...
Bruh you live off Old Statesville and Sunset, that's not the most chill area. That Denny's on Sunset used to be the club (Club Denny's), I'm going back over a decade now, always was hot in that area
But yes, anywhere you go it depends on where you live. Believe it or not, there are nicer areas in Memphis and Baltimore too, that if one can afford it, they could choose those areas. The difference in Carolina cities that is truly unique in my opinion, and this goes beyond just Charlotte or Raleigh because Greensboro, Winston, Fayetteville, Durham, are like this too;
But in Carolina there's a deeply rooted black middle class in nearly all the sizable cities, and it's quite large. There are multiple black middle class areas in all these cities, and a good sized wealthy black area, too. Poverty never reached as deeply in Carolina cities as other places nationally, and because poverty is often correlated to violence, Carolina cities have never been as violent as many other places, either. How this happened, I really don't know, but it's something that jumps out to you if you come from a city that is just more dangerous...
Example, you could never mistake anywhere in Carolina for Memphis. It's just not close, the worst hoods in Charlotte and Raleigh would be considered safe in Memphis. Physically the bad areas in Memphis are just so much more broken down, you can see it, and there's a culture of murder and violence in Memphis that goes well before the Civil Rights era, well before desegregation. So when you come from somewhere like that, you can easily spot the contrasts when juxtaposed to Carolina cities...
You don't live in a great area of Charlotte but it isn't the worst. Little Rock is worse, Sugar Creek is worse, etc. So it is about where you live but your frame of reference could be different from mine, what feels like "shootings all the time" to you may not feel so frequent to other people and you aren't wrong for that, it's just based on your own experiences!
Where did you come from prior to Charlotte?
We're 53 days into a new year and Charlotte has 18 murders so far. Could be better, but it's not a "shooting all the time" place. Charlotte so far for the 2020s, averages 108 murders/year, Charlotte averaged 65 in the 10s, 68 in the 00s, and 89 in the 90s. But, Charlotte is also a much larger city than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. The 10s was the best era in Charlotte in recent memory but was historically low, 2020s Charlotte is way safer than it was in the 90s and about on par with what 00s Charlotte was; Charlotte today has more murders and shootings than either era but there's just more people in Charlotte today, Charlotte isn't actually worse...
(By the way this same thing applies for Raleigh. Raleigh is at 7 murders so far this year, and for the 20s to-date is averaging 35. Raleigh averaged 19 in the 10s, a historically low era, 20 in the 00s, and 23 in the 90s. Today's Raleigh is a little safer but close to what Raleigh's violent crime levels were in the 90s. Raleigh has way more people living here today than it did 25-30 years ago, though)...
I don't fully disagree. There's a ceiling for every city. There's a gap between where Charlotte is currently, and where cities more established like Denver, San Diego, Minneapolis, Detroit, etc are. Charlotte is climbing the city boards but it's not really what those places are, let alone the cities above them...
I got relatives out there
that standing around Walmart is just some southern shyt brodie...No doubt, one thing I'll say is that tragedy is tragedy. If one place has 100 shootings and another only 10, but you're one of the people affected by "only" 10, it doesn't feel better than if you were in the place with 100 shootings. The weight of tragedy is the exact same...
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I got some bad news yesterday. I was trying to move to the Florida panhandle this summer. I had a job lined up but found out through a contact already there that they are paying 23HR.
I can’t come home to that. I was hoping 45Hr like our contract in OKC. They really undercutting hard. So I won’t be moving down there now.
I’ll probably stick to this contracting for another year unfortunately but I still want to pick up another house and move.
What’s a decent area in charlotte I can possibly afford? I live in a country/hood part of Atlanta now. Primed to get gentrified. I have two little girls so I’m hoping to move to a decent school district. I really want a house under 300K. 3/2 1800-2400 SF (I know that’s probably impossible in this market). Any recommendations?
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