Rick Glaser: Mayweather v Maidana 2 did only 772k PPV buys...not 925k. Dan Rafael says high 800k.

[Jello Biafra]

My nikka u r so slow
So I'm gonna really have to break this down to u
When I say "how many big fights did oscar have before Floyd" I was referencing those very fights and more
Oscar one of the biggest ppv attractions ever and has been in many high profile fights before without breaking the record
So to say oscar broke the record all by himself and Floyd was there for the ride is retarded

Well learn how to write coherent sentences and people wouldn't misunderstand you.
Say how many PPV's went over a million or something.
ANd them breaking the record was a collaborative effort but it would probably have to be brokenb down as 60% Oscar and 40% Floyd because of Oscar's popularity at the time. He was getting between 700k-900k and change for his big PPV fights.

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Alright breh...here you go, Canelo's 3 fights BEFORE fighting Floyd (vs Mosley isnt counted because it was on PPV undercard as co-main event)


"Alvarez’s fight against Cintron on HBO drew 1.469 million viewers." - http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/will-canelo-alvarez-vs-austin-trout-be-in-our-future/

"Nielsen numbers show that the Alvarez-Lopez fight drew a peak audience of 1.036 million viewers Saturday" - http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...anelo-alvarez-confirm-big-164518979--box.html

"Showtime also exceeded 1 million viewers with Alvarez-Trout (1.1 million)" - http://sports.yahoo.com/news/despit...-ratings-in-banner-boxing-year-204009683.html

"It wasn't a pay-per-view, but Canelo vs. Trout drew almost 40,000 people to the Alamodome -- entirely Alvarez's doing" - http://www.sbnation.com/2013/4/21/4247966/canelo-alvarez-next-fight-floyd-mayweather

And as far as Floyd vs Canelo goes, and the 2.2 million views, "In Mexico, the fight on Televisa had a 41.1 rating, 77 share, and was watched by 22.1 million viewers in 5.9 million households." - http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/9/1...er-two-million-ppv-buys-in-u-s-record-numbers








Who's retarded now


Like we said, and this shouldnt have had to be DONE, Canelo was a bigger draw than Floyd was BEFORE he fought Osca. Only a full blown stan would say otherwise when the numbers/ratings back up the point and it's common knowledge and obvious to those of us who watch the damn sport



#CaneloCartel

I already know Canelos pre ppv numbers they are recent and easy to find but where are Floyds pre ppv numbers for comparison? Right now your just speculating.

You showing me what rating Floyd vs Canelo got on regular tv in Mexico proves nothing. People bought that PPV to either see Mayweather win or because they believed hed finally lose.

Who was copping that ppv like fukk Floyd I wanna see Canelo fight? These people are few and far between hence him doing 350 then 300 k in his subsequent fights. We know people who wanna see Mayweather fight more because even against a no name like Guerrero and a relative no name like Maidana he selling over 800k.

 

[Newzz]

I already know Canelos pre ppv numbers they are recent and easy to find but where are Floyds pre ppv numbers for comparison? Right now your just speculating.

You showing me what rating Floyd vs Canelo got on regular tv in Mexico proves nothing. People bought that PPV to either see Mayweather win or because they believed hed finally lose.

Who was copping that ppv like fukk Floyd I wanna see Canelo fight? These people are few and far between hence him doing 350 then 300 k in his subsequent fights. We know people who wanna see Mayweather fight more because even against a no name like Guerrero and a relative no name like Maidana he selling over 800k.

Damn...yall are some stubborn ass people


Floyd Mayweather vs Sharmba Mitchell (Floyd's last fight on regular TV before fighting exclusively on PPV) was basically empty. The commentators even talked about the lack of attendance for the fight:




There is NO speculation on my part. It's well known that Floyd was not a draw....you can revise history all you want, but Im going to tell you that you're living fantasies and keep rejecting your deposit


I watched the nikka with my own damn eyes...he couldnt draw for shyt. You want me to post his manager at the time talking about it as well?

Not knocking Floyd Mayweather, but he knows he couldn't draw flies to a dumpster until he beat Oscar De la Hoya. I know this is true because I was managing him when he couldn't sell out his hometown of Grand Rapids or the San Francisco Auditorium, which only seats 6,000 people."

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-wards-manager-drops-bombs-on-floyd-mayweather--63331

Canelo did 1.4 mill against Cintron, did 1 mill against Lopez, 1.1 mill against Trout including bringing in 40,000 people in attendance.....and you got the nerve to sit here and argue that Floyd before fighting Oscar and Canelo today, or even before fighting Floyd, were EQUAL draws?

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Damn...yall are some stubborn ass people


Floyd Mayweather vs Sharmba Mitchell (Floyd's last fight on regular TV before fighting exclusively on PPV) was basically empty. The commentators even talked about the lack of attendance for the fight:




There is NO speculation on my part. It's well known that Floyd was not a draw....you can revise history all you want, but Im going to tell you that you're living fantasies and keep rejecting your deposit


I watched the nikka with my own damn eyes...he couldnt draw for shyt. You want me to post his manager at the time talking about it as well?



Canelo did 1.4 mill against Cintron, did 1 mill against Lopez, 1.1 mill against Trout including bringing in 40,000 people in attendance.....and you got the nerve to sit here and argue that Floyd before fighting Oscar and Canelo today, or even before fighting Floyd, were EQUAL draws?

Breh Im not trying to revise anything I seriously wanted to know what his numbers were for comparison sake.

If Floyd wasn't much of a draw before Oscar (which for the most part is a fair, black fighters don't sell unless they got some sorta schtick/gimmick) when he sold 375k for the Zab fight and 325k for Baldi then Canelos isn't a draw after Floyd because hes actually selling less.

 

[Newzz]

Breh Im not trying to revise anything I seriously wanted to know what his numbers were for comparison sake.

If Floyd wasn't much of a draw before Oscar (which for the most part is a fair, black fighters don't sell unless they got some sorta schtick/gimmick) when he sold 375k for the Zab fight and 325k for Baldi then Canelos isn't a draw after Floyd because hes actually selling less.

You just refuse to use any context huh?


Again, Floyd's biggest PPV before fighting ODLH vs Zab Judah was for the IBF Championship and was a highly anticipated matchup of 2 young black fighters who were also good friends turned rivals. It did only 374k.


Canelo fought a totally unranked by any organization, Alfredo Angulo, and Angulo does not have a fanbase to speak off....and Canelo still did 350k on his very first PPV....a fight that no one was looking forward to and everyone believed it was not a PPV fight and belonged on free cable.


Difference in 24K for Floyd against a much higher ranked, heraled, and fighter with his own built in fanbase.


Canelo, for the thousandth time, was a bigger draw when he Fought Floyd than Floyd was when he fought Oscar.


Why do you insist on keep moving the goalposts to talk about AFTER Canelo vs Floyd happened.


And one more thing, Floyd has NEVER had 22 million viewers watching a fight of his in America like Canelo has had in Mexico. His fanbase is predominantly Mexicans, so yes, the ratings in Mexico DO count being that Canelo is a Mexican

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

You just refuse to use any context huh?

I don't think you understand how to apply context.

Again, Floyd's biggest PPV before fighting ODLH vs Zab Judah was for the IBF Championship and was a highly anticipated matchup of 2 young black fighters who were also good friends turned rivals. It did only 374k.

What was Canelo biggest ppv before Floyd?
He doesn't have one. How can you compare Floyd before he blew up to Canelo after he blew up and the nunbers still come up lacking? Then say he was fighting a nobody. I'm sorry but what ppvs did Zab or Baldimir headline pre or even post Floyd?


Canelo fought a totally unranked by any organization, Alfredo Angulo, and Angulo does not have a fanbase to speak off....and Canelo still did 350k on his very first PPV....a fight that no one was looking forward to and everyone believed it was not a PPV fight and belonged on free cable.

So after doing 2 million views with the Floyd fight he does like 1/7th the number in his next 2 fights, with a roughly 18% drop off against Lara. I'm just wondering where all these fans of Canelo went to? They don't seem to care about dropping they money on Saul I guess.

Robert was on the same level as Angelo but that fight did somewhere from 850 to over 900k depending on who you ask.

Difference in 24K for Floyd against a much higher ranked, heraled, and fighter with his own built in fanbase.

Yet Zab ain't headline a ppv before or after


Canelo, for the thousandth time, was a bigger draw when he Fought Floyd than Floyd was when he fought Oscar.

I guess Floyd beat the draw outta Canelo' s ass.


Why do you insist on keep moving the goalposts to talk about AFTER Canelo vs Floyd happened.

Because Canelo hasn't headlined a ppv before Floyd to compare them. How can you compare Floyd numbers pre his biggest fight to Canelo numbers after his biggest fight . What's funny is that even doing that Floyd comes out ahead.


And one more thing, Floyd has NEVER had 22 million viewers watching a fight of his in America like Canelo has had in Mexico. His fanbase is predominantly Mexicans, so yes, the ratings in Mexico DO count being that Canelo is a Mexican

If Floyd fought a mega fight and they put it on broadcast tv (cbs) I bet it does similiar if not better numbers and Floyd is a black man in a predominately white country

 

[seemorecizzy]

Well learn how to write coherent sentences and people wouldn't misunderstand you.
Say how many PPV's went over a million or something.
ANd them breaking the record was a collaborative effort but it would probably have to be brokenb down as 60% Oscar and 40% Floyd because of Oscar's popularity at the time. He was getting between 700k-900k and change for his big PPV fights.

Buddy everybody and they mama knows oscar is a draw and is one of the biggest stars ever
Even casuals
I didn't think that needed to be dumbed down
And I agree with 60 to oscar 40 for Floyd
We saying the same shyt
This back and fourth was pointless

 

[Newzz]

Man, Im done...you Floyd stans refuse to use rational or even think clearly when it comes to that man

How are you gonna say Floyd Mayweather, prior to fighting Oscar De La Hoya, was equal to or greater than Canelo Alvarez as a draw when Canelo Alvarez had 40 fukking thousand people in attendance for his fight against Austin Trout of all people

Im done

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Man, Im done...you Floyd stans refuse to use rational or even think clearly when it comes to that man

How are you gonna say Floyd Mayweather, prior to fighting Oscar De La Hoya, was equal to or greater than Canelo Alvarez as a draw when Canelo Alvarez had 40 fukking thousand people in attendance for his fight against Austin Trout of all people

Im done

So you talk about context and yet again throw that shyt straight in the bushes real quick.

You could purchase tickets to the fight for as low as 10 dollars And 1/3 of those tickets sold were the 10 dollar tickets. If that fight happened in Vegas or New York that fights half full at best

 

[Newzz]

So you talk about context and yet again throw that shyt straight in the bushes real quick.

You could purchase tickets to the fight for as low as 10 dollars And 1/3 of those tickets sold were the 10 dollar tickets. If that fight happened in Vegas or New York that fights half full at best

TICKETS:
Tickets priced at $300, $150, $100, $50, $25 and $10, plus applicable taxes, fees and services charges go on sale on Wednesday, March 13 at 2:00 p.m. CT and will be available for purchase at the Alamodome box office, online at www.ticketmaster.com, all Ticketmaster locations or by calling (800) 745-3000.

http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/...o-announce-their-april-20-world-championship/

But Im sure the 40,000+ in attendance all purchased the $10 tickets


Just stop it breh, you're not winning this


Floyd couldnt even sell out the Rose Garden against Sharmba Mitchell before he fought ODLH

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

But Im sure the + in attendance all purchased the $10 tickets


Just stop it breh, you're not winning this


Floyd couldnt even sell out the Rose Garden against Sharmba Mitchell before he fought ODLH

I said specifically 1/3 or to make it easier for you 13,000 of those tickets were 10 dollars.

And while 40,000 tickets were sold which is still a lot the alamo dome actually holds 72,000

 

[Newzz]

I said specifically 1/3 or to make it easier for you 13,000 of those tickets were 10 dollars.

And while 40,000 tickets were sold which is still a lot the alamo dome actually holds 72,000

How do you know how many tickets were sold for what price?

And you mind telling us how many of the $300, $150, and $100 tickets were sold


Breh, you're splitting hairs....let it go.


The boy Canelo sold 40,000 tickets for 1 fight, was watched by 1.1 million viewers in America and 15 million more viewers in Mexico (where more than half his fanbase resides).


He was a bigger draw than Floyd was before he fought Oscar. Please stop.

 

[krackdagawd]

What the fukk is wrong with you Floyd Stans who act like boxing officially started when dude fought Oscar on PPV?

because that's when they started watching

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

How do you know how many tickets were sold for what price?

And you mind telling us how many of the $300, and $100 tickets th sold


Breh, you're splitting hairs....let it go.


The boy Canelo sold 40,000 tickets for 1 fight, was watched by 1.1 million viewers in America and 15 million more viewers in Mexico (where more than half his fanbase resides).


He was a bigger draw than Floyd was before he fought Oscar. Please stop.

There were stories written about it back then, I'll check for a link when I'm home but Im at work now.

So more than 15 million is equal to more than half his fans so hes got say 10 milliion fans here but only 350 k cared enough to drop ppv dollars on the Angulo fight and 300k for Lara

 

[merklman]

But Im sure the 40,000+ in attendance all purchased the $10 tickets


Just stop it breh, you're not winning this


Floyd couldnt even sell out the Rose Garden against Sharmba Mitchell before he fought ODLH

To be fair, them 40,000 tickets only generated $3million.

Id probably lean towards floyd being bigger in this argument - but only by the numbers. If Canelo was so big he shouldve been on PPV before the floyd fight, and his PPV's following floyd shouldve been hitting over a million. And, even floyds crappy fights in the MGM still make over $8-9million at the live gate.

Canelo v Lara/Angulo at the MGM made <$3million at the live gate

If floyd tickets were $10-100 he probably wouldve sold out stadiums too, however, we'll never know.