Rick Glaser: Mayweather v Maidana 2 did only 772k PPV buys...not 925k. Dan Rafael says high 800k.
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GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
I agree man. Dan Rafael isn't always right, but he's working sources to get information that hasn't been officially published when he reports "rumors".
What I give Dan credit for is that he never seems to post articles or tweet things to get attention. When he writes about it, he has confirmed it.
The mailbag is where you get the rumors from sources stuff, which makes it fun to hear what people are talking about behind the scenes.
I could give a fukk about PPV numbers for any of these dudes because none of that shyt goes into my pocket and it really doesn't mean a damn thing as far as being a boxing fan goes.
However, you must be a crackhead to even make that statement.
Oscar fought all of these dudes before Floyd, and they were all considered big fights:
Pernell Whitaker
Hector Camacho
Felix Trinidad
Fernando Vargas
Shane Mosley (twice)
Bernard Hopkins
What the fukk is wrong with you Floyd Stans who act like boxing officially started when dude fought Oscar on PPV?
seemorecizzy
Superstar
My nikka u r so slow
So I'm gonna really have to break this down to u
When I say "how many big fights did oscar have before Floyd" I was referencing those very fights and more
Oscar one of the biggest ppv attractions ever and has been in many high profile fights before without breaking the record
So to say oscar broke the record all by himself and Floyd was there for the ride is retarded
You said Canelo was a bigger draw when he fought Floyd than Floyd was when he fought Oscar.
He is though...at least imo
Being that Floyd's BIGGEST PPV before fighting Oscar De La Hoya was against his rival and IBF Champion, Zab Judah, who was well known by tons of boxing fans and considered a big matchup....it sold 374k on PPV.
Canelo Alvarez went up against Alfredo Angulo, was was unranked by every single organization RING/ESPN/IBF/WBA/WBC/WBO, and he STILL did 350k (only 24k less than Floyd vs Zab which was an anticipated matchup years in the making).
Zab Judah brought just as many fans to the matchup (let's not forget how the fans were chanting for Zab during the fight). Floyd vs Zab was a very looked forward to event.
Canelo vs Angulo, on the otherhand, people were saying it didnt even belong on PPV, and Angulo's fanbase is almost non-existant
InvictusAeternusEternus
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He is though
Being that Floyd's BIGGEST PPV before fighting Oscar De La Hoya was against his rival and IBF Champion, Zab Judah, who was well known by tons of boxing fans and considered a big matchup....it sold 374k on PPV.
Canelo Alvarez went up against Alfredo Angulo, was was unranked by every single organization RING/ESPN/IBF/WBA/WBC/WBO, and he STILL did 350k (only 24k less than Floyd vs Zab which was an anticipated matchup years in the making).
Zab Judah brought just as many fans to the matchup (let's not forget how the fans were chanting for Zab during the fight). Floyd vs Zab was a very looked forward to event.
Canelo vs Angulo, on the otherhand, people were saying it didnt even belong on PPV
Your post would have been so dope except for one little problem, the Angulo fight was after the Floyd fight.
Has Canelo ever fought on PPV main event prior to fighting Floyd?
You wanna compare their "cable" ratings then?
If you dont think that a Floyd Mayweather Jr who cant even break 900k on Showtime in any fight not with Canelo Alvarez, but all of a sudden he has a 2.2 million PPV buys on his resume which is NOT normal for him recently, wasnt because of Canelo Alvarez and his following...you're crazy.
Floyd vs Guerrero...875k
Floyd vs Alvarez...2.2 mill
Floyd vs Maidana...850k
Floyd vs Maidana 2...high 800k
InvictusAeternusEternus
In the cut
Has Canelo ever fought on PPV main event prior to fighting Floyd?
You wanna compare their "cable" ratings then?
If you dont think that a Floyd Mayweather Jr who cant even break 900k on Showtime in any fight not with Canelo Alvarez, but all of a sudden he has a 2.2 million PPV buys on his resume which is NOT normal for him recently, wasnt because of Canelo Alvarez and his following...you're crazy.
Floyd vs Guerrero...875k
Floyd vs Alvarez...2.2 mill
Floyd vs Maidana...850k
Floyd vs Maidana 2...high 800k
1) You said he was a bigger draw but at best they were equal.
2)Actually if you can find them I wouldn't mind seeing Floyds cable ratings from the time to be honest, but that was like 10+ years ago that Floyd wasn't fighting on PPV.
3) Lets do a comparison then
Canelo vs Trout... not on PPV
Canelo vs Floyd... 2.2 mill
Canelo vs Angulo... 350k
Canelo vs Lara... 300k
Canelo drew 350k on PPV against an unranked by any organization, non fanbase having Angulo.
Floyd drew 374k on PPV against the IBF Champion, his rival, in a higly anticipated matchup against Zab Judah who had his own fanbase.
I would give the nod to Canelo using context
Isnt that the point though? He said Canelo was a bigger draw than Floyd was before Floyd fought Oscar...which is true.
Are you moving the goal posts to compare Floyd's PPV to Canelo's PPV numbers after fighting each other
The facts are, Canelo today is a bigger draw than Floyd was until he fought Oscar.
InvictusAeternusEternus
In the cut
Canelo drew 350k on PPV against an unranked by any organization, non fanbase having Angulo.
Floyd drew 374k on PPV against the IBF Champion, his rival, in a higly anticipated matchup against Zab Judah who had his own fanbase.
I would give the nod to Canelo using context
Isnt that the point though? He said Canelo was a bigger draw than Floyd was before Floyd fought Oscar...which is true.
Are you moving the goal posts to compare Floyd's PPV to Canelo's PPV numbers after fighting each other
The facts are, Canelo today is a bigger draw than Floyd was until he fought Oscar.
1) Again you said before the Floyd fight but Angulo was after.
2) So you cant find Floyds pre ppv numbers to compare them to Canelos pre ppv numbers but somehow that magically makes what you said true?
3) Im not moving the goalpost at all. Your point is pretty much Canelo was basically equal if not bigger in making that fight over 2 million buys than Floyd, but if you look at the numbers that's clearly not the case.
Canelo's numbers have drastically dropped off after even more than Floyds have. He was a key component in making the fight sell sure but that's because people believed he had a shot to take out Floyd. In the end
the fight did so well because of people wanting to see Mayweather win or hopefully lose and not so much to see Canelo.
Floyd's 2 ppv before Oscar sold like 700k combined , Canelos 2 ppv post Floyd sold 650k combined.
So unless your using some alien math that I don't know 700>650
seemorecizzy
Superstar
Has Canelo ever fought on PPV main event prior to fighting Floyd?
You wanna compare their "cable" ratings then?
If you dont think that a Floyd Mayweather Jr who cant even break 900k on Showtime in any fight not with Canelo Alvarez, but all of a sudden he has a 2.2 million PPV buys on his resume which is NOT normal for him recently, wasnt because of Canelo Alvarez and his following...you're crazy.
Floyd vs Guerrero...875k
Floyd vs Alvarez...2.2 mill
Floyd vs Maidana...850k
Floyd vs Maidana 2...high 800k
You guys are trolling or retarded
1) Again you said before the Floyd fight but Angulo was after.
2) So you cant find Floyds pre ppv numbers to compare them to Canelos pre ppv numbers but somehow that magically makes what you said true?
3) Im not moving the goalpost at all. Your point is pretty much Canelo was basically equal if not bigger in making that fight over 2 million buys than Floyd, but if you look at the numbers that's clearly not the case.
Canelo's numbers have drastically dropped off after even more than Floyds have. He was a key component in making the fight sell sure but that's because people believed he had a shot to take out Floyd. In the end
the fight did so well because of people wanting to see Mayweather win or hopefully lose and not so much to see Canelo.
Floyd's 2 ppv before Oscar sold like 700k combined , Canelos 2 ppv post Floyd sold 650k combined.
So unless your using some alien math that I don't know 700>650
Alright breh...here you go, Canelo's 3 fights BEFORE fighting Floyd (vs Mosley isnt counted because it was on PPV undercard as co-main event)
"Alvarez’s fight against Cintron on HBO drew 1.469 million viewers." - http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/will-canelo-alvarez-vs-austin-trout-be-in-our-future/
"Nielsen numbers show that the Alvarez-Lopez fight drew a peak audience of 1.036 million viewers Saturday" - http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...anelo-alvarez-confirm-big-164518979--box.html
"Showtime also exceeded 1 million viewers with Alvarez-Trout (1.1 million)" - http://sports.yahoo.com/news/despit...-ratings-in-banner-boxing-year-204009683.html
"It wasn't a pay-per-view, but Canelo vs. Trout drew almost 40,000 people to the Alamodome -- entirely Alvarez's doing" - http://www.sbnation.com/2013/4/21/4247966/canelo-alvarez-next-fight-floyd-mayweather
And as far as Floyd vs Canelo goes, and the 2.2 million views, "In Mexico, the fight on Televisa had a 41.1 rating, 77 share, and was watched by 22.1 million viewers in 5.9 million households." - http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/9/1...er-two-million-ppv-buys-in-u-s-record-numbers
Who's retarded now
Like we said, and this shouldnt have had to be DONE, Canelo was a bigger draw than Floyd was BEFORE he fought Osca. Only a full blown stan would say otherwise when the numbers/ratings back up the point and it's common knowledge and obvious to those of us who watch the damn sport
#CaneloCartel
WhodatWhoadi
Naw
As long as he has "The #1 Lightweight In The World" on the roster....the sky's the limit
you lucky terrence crawford cant put hands on your boy...would knock his fukking block off
Mickey Bey aint my boy
He's just an #OhioKiller, so I rep him, but I like to troll about him being the self professed "#1 Lightweight In The World"
He said he was the #1 lightweight because he beat the #1 lightweight Vazquez....and to be the man, you have to beat the man
WhodatWhoadi
Naw
Mickey Bey aint my boy
He's just an #OhioKiller, so I rep him, but I like to troll about him being the self professed "#1 Lightweight In The World"
He said he was the #1 lightweight because he beat the #1 lightweight Vazquez....and to be the man, you have to beat the man
