Mr Hate Coffee
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the exceptional athletes from hood areas are getting derailed along the way more than before.
Do you have anything to substantiate this statement?
the exceptional athletes from hood areas are getting derailed along the way more than before.
We gon act like kids from the trenches don’t get scholarships to the same private schools?
Cause I'd like to see some regional and state level talent post college, it's just wishful thinking but I honestly fukking hate college basketball with every fiber of my being until I'll melt.How does this fix things?
I mean you even acknowledge it will never happen. At this point the minor league is the NCAA and goals for the "trench babies" need to be readjusted to getting a free degree + NIL money.
There's a huge market for the level of talent just below NBA level who could ascend to household names after 4 years of NCAA tourney success.
Have read and seen youth coaches and former players from different parts of the country say this for 15+ years now.Do you have anything to substantiate this statement?
Yea and they still go home to the trenches when school is outThis is what I was wondering as well. We're going on 30+ years of the top hood prospects being whisked away to play for a private school on scholarship.
Now Chinese Americans are ballin out there, 7'1 and 6'10 going to Maryland and on draft boards:
It only made sense as the next step for rich kids taking over.
folks are conflating issues. NBA players from humble beginnings are still the majority of NBA players but these guys didnt go to public school once they got on radar as a hoops phenom. Tatum for instance transferred to one of the best private schools in St. Louis as a 7th grader.
Yeah, this is what I was basically saying in the soccer thread.People are clearly ignoring that this idea of these kids having average ass parents,lives and upbringings does not account for being the children/relatives of D1 athletes..and already having an edge on kids before they've ever picked up a ball..when you factor that in, you'll see that part has more to do with why you keep seeing the same things play out the way they do.
The way you see coli posters complain that they can't afford to keep up with the costs of their kids playing sports should let you know they aren't coming from humble beginnings.
I judge a hoop culture by its guards/wings.
Feel like Africa and Asia push the kids too tall for soccer, rugby, ping pong etc., to basketball. Every time you see a highlight film of foreign players...it's almost always some 7'0"+ kid that either has a decent outside game or just dunks over everyone.
The 6'6" slasher with a sweet jumper and decent hops feels non-existent outside of America.
Bronny is PURE nepotism though. Even against the other "rich kids" we're talking about, he wasn't good enough. What I'm more so talking about is the talent pool not being what it used to be. These kids just aren't the athletes we're used to seeing IMO. I found it hilarious that people think Kiyan could hold his own against his dad at the same age. Melo was so strong and explosive at 17. Kiyan is nowhere near his father's physical development. I think ALOT of these kids would have been eaten alive against the kids coming up in the early 2000s despite being more skilled.Bronny being drafted yesterday felt like the culmination of years of mediocrity to get to this point. All the money and training in the world to be a sub par college athlete who never got the time to work on his game because that was never the point. The point is getting to the NBA by any means as fast as possible and letting things sort out from there.
I don't think anything is gonna change until we start consistently losing in the Olympics. Maybe that wakes people up.
Bronny is PURE nepotism though. Even against the other "rich kids" we're talking about, he wasn't good enough. What I'm more so talking about is the talent pool not being what it used to be. These kids just aren't the athletes we're used to seeing IMO. I found it hilarious that people think Kiyan could hold his own against his dad at the same age. Melo was so strong and explosive at 17. Kiyan is nowhere near his father's physical development. I think ALOT of these kids would have been eaten alive against the kids coming up in the early 2000s despite being more skilled.